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Postby Hebbs » Wed 27 Aug, 2008 1:01 am

Introduction:

Well it has taken I suppose all of about 2 years but I am about to finally get a decent size tank underway.

As some of you may know I have a nano recorded hereabouts and a 200lt bowfront that has temporarily housed a variety of critters and corals pending the eventual arrival of 'the tank'.

System Objectives:
Hopefully something beautiful to watch whilst sitting in the lounge with the wife whilst she is watching 'her shows'! :)

I am aiming for lots of coral movement (hence no coloured sticks allowed :pirate: )and would like for the circulation for the tank to be with a minimum number of pumps in the water which will mean, hopefully, zero power heads in the display.

I have a couple of ideas to assist in water movement for the display which may or may not evolve but primarily the display will gravity feed via (ItDepends :thumbsup:) siphon and durso to skimmer and sump. Return will pump water from the sump to to the refugium which in turn will gravity feed back to the main display.

Hopefully it will be quiet AND nice to look at. :spit:

System Type:
Mixed Reef, Softies and LPS only.

Display System:

Strike up Date:
To be advised (Wet in days I hope!)

Display Tank:
6' long x 2' high and 1.5' wide, centre weir/overflow, shallow sand bed.

Display Lighting:
5 x 4' 55W T5's. Final configuration and rating to be decided, at this stage I haveat 2 x Actinic, 3 x 10000. Looking to upgrade eventually to 5 x 5' 80W.

Stand:
Factory, limed timber finish.

Hood:
Factory, low profile standard hood.

Sump:
3' sump and stand plumbed into room behind the display tank. By behind I mean through wall into an under stair cupboard where all filtration, water circulation, electrics and refugium will be housed.

Heated by 2 x 300w heaters.

Refugium:
2x1.5x1, gravity fed back to the display tank.

Refugium Lighting:
2' T5 light timed to operate opposite the display lighting.

Support systems:

System Water:
Natural salt water .

Display Water circulation:
Sequence Dart and Ocean Motions 4 way in 12 - 23 - 34 - 41 sequence.

Return Pump:
Aquabee 3000lph.

Skimmer:
Reef Octopus Recirculating DNW150.

Evaporation Top Up:
Auto top-up (Group Buy).

Other Gadgets
Multi Controller with SMS support (Another Group Buy ;))

Chemical Support:

Calcium Reactor - Further details to be added

Other Chemical Maintenance:
Nothing decided as yet.

Current Water Chemistry:
Water added 13 November 2008

Ammonia:
0.5

Nitrites:
0.2

Nitrates:
Not Measured atm

Phosphates:
Not Measured atm

Alkalinity:
Not Measured atm

Calcium:
Not Measured atm

Salinity / Specific Gravity:
1.027

Temperature:
26.2 degrees

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Current FTS (16 Nov 2008) ;)

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Postby Chris.Stevens » Wed 27 Aug, 2008 2:20 am

Hebbs, I have set-up the gravity feed both to and from the Display. I had the added difficulty that my sump was 25m away. Have a look at my thread.

I have a very good spreadsheet for calculating the head you will require to know what height the Refugium needs to be above the Display and the display above the Sump. If this will help you send me an email
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Postby StripestheEel » Wed 27 Aug, 2008 2:28 am

Sounds great, looking forward to some piccies!!
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Postby Hebbs » Wed 27 Aug, 2008 8:55 pm

Chris.Stevens wrote:I have a very good spreadsheet for calculating the head you will require to know what height the Refugium needs to be above the Display and the display above the Sump. If this will help you send me an email


Cheers Chris, Appreciate the offer.

StripestheEel wrote:Sounds great, looking forward to some piccies!!


I really must do that :) Will get some next couple of days whilst everything is still in some sort of progress. Thanks for the comments Matt.

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Postby Hebbs » Thu 28 Aug, 2008 3:58 pm

Got some initial pics for posterity:-

The new tank:-

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In cabinet Plumbing:-

The left Side has been fitted with a water change outlet that will allow me to make water changes a lot easier. The middle of the cabinet shows the siphon/overflow and the closed loop intake existing through the back wall. The right side pic, well, I have added it for completeness!

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The, as yet, unfinished Sump/Refugium stand which will sit in the stairwell behind the tank and finally a shot of the 'Fishroom' itself, well hardly but it's the closest I will come to one :).

I am currently tiling the wall where the Sump/Fuge will be for ease of cleaning and to prevent moisture getting into the fibro panels.

All of the pumps/plumbing/electrics are planned for this room which when combined with a siphon/overflow should make the tank whisper quiet. :crossfingers:

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Postby noely » Fri 29 Aug, 2008 4:21 am

Looking the goods Hebbs!! :clap: :clap:
Fantastic to see this one on the go


All of the pumps/plumbing/electrics are planned for this room which when combined with a siphon/overflow should make the tank whisper quiet. Cross Fingers


Cant be interfering with "her shows" now can we.

Display Lighting:
5 x 5' 80W T5's. Exact configuration and rating to be decided, at this stage looking at 2 x Actinic, 2 x 15000 and 1 x 10000.


Individual reflectors?
Will the softies need all of those 400W or you going for colour.

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Postby Hebbs » Fri 29 Aug, 2008 4:45 pm

noely wrote:Looking the goods Hebbs!! :clap: :clap:
Fantastic to see this one on the go


Nice to also see you around Leon, thanks for the nice words. I hope to be able to return the favour real soon :poke:

noely wrote:Cant be interfering with "her shows" now can we.


You're a braver man than me if you would like to try! ;)

noely wrote:Individual reflectors?
Will the softies need all of those 400W or you going for colour.


The T5s will have individual reflectors and I was/am still in debate on the total wattage I will need. Not sure whether to start with the 5 (400w) or with 4 for a total of 320w.

Colour is a whole other problem, I haven't yet determined the globe makeup. I like the fluorescence provided by the Actinics and a bluish tinge but not the very blue that a few seem to like.

Thinking about 2 x Actinic, 2 x 14000k and 1 x 10000k if I go with the five tubes, for four I probably would drop either an actinic or a 14000, not sure.

Whilst I am predominately a softie fan, I tend to group LPS under that umbrella, there will be some other corals that I will probably also keep (Acans, plating corals etc) that will appreciate the extra watt or two.

I also have a rose BTA that will be be in all likelihood the centerpiece of the tank so I am aware of providing sufficient lighting to keep it happy.

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Postby kurt » Fri 29 Aug, 2008 5:22 pm

Looks good Hebbs looking forward to seeing more pics.
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Postby Siiri » Fri 29 Aug, 2008 6:25 pm

Looking forward to seeing this one up and running... :thumbsup:

Just a suggestion with the T5's... I'd drop one Actinic and add a KZ Fiji Purple instead to highlight your LPS, fish and that rose BTA.
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Postby Hebbs » Fri 29 Aug, 2008 7:35 pm

kurt wrote:Looks good Hebbs looking forward to seeing more pics.


Thanks Kurt, will post some more as soon as I have a few more jobs out of the way.

Would like to finish the stand and tiling this weekend, also need to water test the plumbing as well. So a few opportunities there.

Siiri wrote:Just a suggestion with the T5's... I'd drop one Actinic and add a KZ Fiji Purple instead to highlight your LPS, fish and that rose BTA.


I haven't yet found a supplier in Aus who has the Fiji Purple in a 5'. I know of only one source of the 80w tubes atm and he isn't shipping, its a collect service only. :wall:

The addition of a purple has been a consideration though. ;)

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Postby Hebbs » Tue 02 Sep, 2008 12:30 pm

Ok,

Got a little more done in the weekend.

Did a water test and found I had a pinhole leak in my weir so then emptied the tank (I am grateful for the drain tap already!) and will need to apply some more silastic before final fill.

On the bright side the plumbing didn't leak! :thumbsup:

Painted the back of the tank, it is a very deep, dark blue/almost black, I think it looks the goods.

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Also, finished tiling the fish room, it's almost too small to be a room, more a fish cupboard ;) but either way, I finished the tiling and grouting/sealing.

Finalised the final adjustments to my chainsaw furniture (a term a friend christened which describes my woodwork ability quite well! :roflmao:) sump/fuge stand and even got it into the room/cupboard without any collateral damage!

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Postby kurt » Thu 18 Sep, 2008 11:27 pm

Looking good Hebbs, Have you already plumbed through the wall yet?
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Postby Freds » Thu 18 Sep, 2008 11:42 pm

ohoh....

Dang! Pesky details ;)
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Postby Hebbs » Fri 19 Sep, 2008 1:54 am

kurt wrote:Looking good Hebbs, Have you already plumbed through the wall yet?


Yep, well almost!

Holes drilled, with much eye brow raising and 'tut tutting' from SWMBO, pipes are running through the wall and now need a final connecting this weekend.

The fuge and sump are in place and connected, the gravity feed return is through the wall to the main tank and the T5s are in and working. I haven't got the 5' 80watters so have made do with 5 x 4' 55w units that I purchased some time ago but didn't use.

The 4' tubes have been placed in a staggered formation in the hood to try and give the best possible light coverage, I am pretty happy with how it looks.

I do though have what appears a small amount of water that has appeared after my water test between the bottom of the tank and the polystyrene. I am a little confused as it is in the vicinity of the overflow bulkheads and I would have thought it would have dripped downwards rather than finding its way between the glass and foam.

In an effort to test for a leak I am planning to fill the tank up to the brim once the plumbing is finished and watch carefully for what happens when the pressure is applied.

Freds wrote:
ohoh....

Dang! Pesky details ;)


Is not too bad, the small price one pays for starting a TJ! :roflmao:

Will try and get some updated pics up after this weekend.

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Postby kurt » Fri 19 Sep, 2008 4:38 pm

Bugger. hope nothing to serious wth the mystery water.

Forgot to ask before what kind of paint did you use for the back plain?

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Postby Hebbs » Sat 20 Sep, 2008 3:27 am

kurt wrote:Bugger. hope nothing to serious wth the mystery water.

Forgot to ask before what kind of paint did you use for the back plain?

:cheers:


Cheers Kurt, you and me both! ;)

The paint was a normal Dulux acrylic from Bunnings, just got it tinted to the colour I wanted.

I used ESP (Ezi Surface Prep) on the glass which helped the paint application. Three coats covered it easily.

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Postby Hebbs » Thu 13 Nov, 2008 11:50 am

I just saw the date of my last post, it has been a while hasn't it but things are finally progressing. Work and family tend to take my attention away from my hobby from time to time. :nod:

Anyway since my last, I have:

- Added a new Grandson to the clan (well not me personally but you get the drift), Matty and mom are doing well!
- Resealed the in tank plumbing
- Acquired some of corals from a fellow member who is closing his tank down (thanks Ross)
- Arranged babysitting for these until the tank is ready for them (thanks Lee)
- Removed and covered the front of the weir, refitted and resealed
- Finished recirculation plumbing to fish room (Still have CL to finish)
- Knocked up some closed loop guards (egg crate)
- High pressure cleaned the base rock
- Water tested and fixed minor leaks

We are now ready to go! Expecting Salt Water delivery this afternoon. :clap:

Oh and by the way, I won't be able to forget the date I finally got it wet, it is my 25th wedding anniversary today!

Will post some pics soon, probably NOT today though! :nono:

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Postby hinton » Thu 13 Nov, 2008 12:20 pm

congrats on the grandson mate,

cant wait to see sum pics of this bad boy up and running
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Postby Hebbs » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 12:04 am

hinton wrote:congrats on the grandson mate,

cant wait to see sum pics of this bad boy up and running


Cheers hinton, he's a little cracker! :thumbsup:

As for photos, well, I have been busy this weekend so I suppose I should throw some up here. Pics to follow...
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Postby Hebbs » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 12:25 am

Ok them, a few progress pics...

As I said earlier, water came Thursday so Friday after work was the day to add the sand.

Managed to get 30 or 40 kilos of sand in and ended up with the usual cloudy display...

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I have been collecting base rock slowly over the last year or so, so Saturday was a good day to get it out, pressure clean it.

So having it all clean and sorted through I picked out the best pieces and lay it out in the family room Sunday morning ready for a full day of 'scaping'.

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After quite considerably less time than I thought (I was almost disappointed!) I got the rock into place, all pretty much without too many retakes. :nod:

In the end I was pretty happy and had things close to what I was looking for with still a few spaces for some live rock to go so the rest can be seeded.

So after all that this is what I ended up with...

Left Side...

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Right Side...

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and of course the obligatory FTS...

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Postby Hebbs » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 6:28 pm

Just for the record, the cycle has started.

Readings as follows:

<b>17 November 2008</b>
0.5 - Ammonia
0.1 - Nitrite

<b>18 November 2008</b>
2.5 - Ammonia
0.1 - Nitrite

<b>22 November 2008</b>
0.5 - Ammonia
0.2 - Nitrite

<b>28 November 2008</b>
0.25 - Ammonia
0.2 - Nitrite

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Postby noely » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 7:07 pm

Looking the goods Hebbs!! :clap: :clap:

How much live rock are you looking at putting in?
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Postby miskairal » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 7:26 pm

Whoohoo Hebbs :clap:
Dontcha just love it when the rock goes in right the first time. Sometimes it all just works and other times you can fiddle for hours or days or weeks and it's still not right. I might not get back to your journal too often because of my crappy download limit but good luck and I hope it continues smoothly :crossfingers:
And look, you drew noely out - haven't seen you in ages :wavey:
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Postby Hebbs » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 12:00 am

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Good to see you still hereabouts! :thumbsup:

Not that much in reality, most of it wll come from my existing small tank so I have some control over what comes in as far as hitchikers goes.

Probably in the vicinity of 5 - 10 kgs, most will have existing corals attached.

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I do, I do. :nod:

My luck doesnt normally run that way so it was a indeed surprise when it was all over realtively quick and painlessly.

No probs, I am old enough to remember bad ADSL and dial up so I appreciate your challenges.

It is good to see you around though, you are starting to get almost as reclusive as Leon! :roflmao:

Good to see you both here again though, all the best.

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Postby miskairal » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 7:27 am

I'm only reclusive out in the open but still spend hours here each day with behind the scenes stuff eg. TOTM ;)
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Postby Chris.Stevens » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 10:43 am

How deep did you decide to go with your sand?
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Postby Hebbs » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 1:50 pm

<b>Miskairal</b>

Have we told you lately just how much we appreciate you? :devil:

Seriously, you do a great job, even if those TOTM nominations are a little hard to obtain. :poke:

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In the display the sand bed is between 1 and 2 inches in depth, it is primarily for aesthetic purposes although it is a pre-requisite of sorts for some future stock.

In the sump I have a DSB that is about 10 inches deep.

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Postby Hebbs » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 3:29 pm

Seeing as I finally have something to show, here is a few of the fish room/cupboard...

Sump...

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Skimmer...

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Fuge (In)...

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Fuge (Out)...

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I think that is about all for now! :thumbsup:

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Postby Chris.Stevens » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 3:49 pm

Hebbs wrote:In the sump I have a DSB that is about 10 inches deep.


Have you seen Reefpedia's comment on DSB? It talks about (at least)10cm. I recall reading an article where deeper sand beds cause issues, but bugger me, I can find a ref to it :wall:

http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php/Deep_Sand_Bed
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Postby Hebbs » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 5:18 pm

Chris.Stevens wrote:
Hebbs wrote:In the sump I have a DSB that is about 10 inches deep.


Have you seen Reefpedia's comment on DSB? It talks about (at least)10cm. I recall reading an article where deeper sand beds cause issues, but bugger me, I can find a ref to it :wall:

http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php/Deep_Sand_Bed


It is at least 10cms deep ;)

The idea for the depth came from Calfo's monster Remote DSB thread on RC. If you have a couple of days, it is quite a good read!

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... genumber=1

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