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Louis' Euro Coral Garden

Postby dejavu » Mon 12 Feb, 2007 9:25 pm

It's been one year since I started out on my reefing journey and 1 award winning nano tank later (RC RK April TOTM, RC nTOTM & AROL TOTM), I am ready for the bigger tank!

This tank is a custom sized 4' "euro braced" that allows for max viewing from the top. These styles of tanks are often referred to as the European look down tanks, or coral gardens. So here are some specs:

Tank: 4L x 2W x 1H
Sump/Refugium: 900L x 450W x 400H
Stand: Colonial style 1000mm tall with doors on the front and side.
Substrate: shallow sand bed (3mm coral sand).
Lighting: 8x39w T5 pendent with pulley system to lower and raise.
Reactors: DBReefTech CR-5C reactor with Milwaukee CO2 regulator.
skimmer: yet to be decided.
Circulation: AquaBee 3000 return with two Tunze Nanostream 6045 for a turnover rate of ~63x per hour.
Drains: Twin external durso & 1 return with Locline. All 20mm.
Stocking: The "dark side" plus a variety of everything else.

1: The tank front on
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2: Under the stand
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3: Side on
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4: Side on with view of the inside
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5: The tank corner, next to the 3' FW planted tank
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6: A sink has been installed behind the garage for easy access (DIY'ed!)
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7: Water drum storage
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8: Not to mislead anyone regarding the size of the garage :devil: I had to move the Ferrari outside for the wide shot! Surely I jest!
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9: External durso setup.
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Postby Fingers » Mon 12 Feb, 2007 9:44 pm

Looking forward to this.
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Postby Faceofblue » Mon 12 Feb, 2007 9:49 pm

I'm looking forward to a great garden
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Postby darkmuncan » Mon 12 Feb, 2007 10:06 pm

very cool,

whats the black on the back of the tanks?

No surface skimming?
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Postby StripestheEel » Mon 12 Feb, 2007 10:17 pm

interesting, very interesting.. good luck louis!
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Postby -Phil- » Mon 12 Feb, 2007 10:23 pm

nice garage...

this will be an interesting tank :thumbsup:

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Postby dejavu » Tue 13 Feb, 2007 12:33 am

Mark, I spray painted the back of the tank. 3 coats of black satin and it's smoooooth. The spray paint made a mess despite my careful covering of floor surfaces! It took an hour to clean the mess off the newly painted floor!

I am still waiting on a few pieces of equipments. My garage is actually underground, and thus it remains quite cool even during summer days. Overheating shouldn't be a big issue with this system.

I've decided to go with T5's because MH are difficult to photograph and this tank is quite shallow, so I don't need penetrating power.

It's been an expensive journey though...........
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Postby silverseahorse » Tue 13 Feb, 2007 9:40 am

Why is your garage so freaking neat?!!! Mine is full of junk! I am ashamed enough now to consider cleaning it out! lol! :rofl:

I can't wait to see what it looks like when it is done.

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Postby Mr Miagi » Tue 13 Feb, 2007 1:21 pm

Looking fantastic Dejavu. Are you going to go High Tech on your FW? Im going to change my spray can now, and go satin.
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Postby Jase » Tue 13 Feb, 2007 7:03 pm

Hey Louis, Great to see you have started this tank journal. Cant wait to see what its going to look like!
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Postby krielikieli » Wed 14 Feb, 2007 2:06 pm

Those tanks & cabinets look neat and well made. May I know where you bought them from? Look forward to some updates... :thumbsup:
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Postby jeremy76 » Thu 15 Feb, 2007 5:33 am

hi Lois
nice setup

i especially like the external durso
im wondering though how you will go about keeping the water surface clean? The intakes seem to be below the waterline.

im also wondering where'd you get those great intake grills?

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Postby dejavu » Thu 15 Feb, 2007 9:39 am

krielikieli: The stands are build by Andrew of Master Aquarium Supplies. Good prices and Andrew is a pleasure to do business with.

Jeremy: I usually turn the pump off during feeding. The top layer of the water drains to the sump when this happens. In addition, with a lot of surface agitation, I don't notice any gunk build up at all.

The intake grills are called "foot valve guards", which I bought from Dural Irrigations. They have all sort of sizes.

I really need to get this tank happening. My nano is overflowing with corals, the refugium is completely packed out as well (which defeats the purpose of a refugium).

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Postby caevan » Thu 15 Feb, 2007 11:55 am

How did you get to a figure of ~63x turnover rate
The volume of your tank 226.53 L
Tunze Nano Stream is rated at 4500 lph x 2 = 9000 lph
Aquabee 3000 is rated at 3000 lph at zero head (it would be considerably less at the height your return is at)
So thats 11000 lph
11000/226.53 = 48.56
Or have I missed something
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Postby dejavu » Thu 15 Feb, 2007 12:47 pm

Caevan, I was going by an approx. net volume after the LR has been put in.

I discounted the AB3000's rate by ~25-30% and a tank volume of ~180L.
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Postby Fingers » Thu 15 Feb, 2007 1:13 pm

Hi Louis,

dejavu wrote:This tank is a custom sized 4' "euro braced" that allows for max viewing from the top. These styles of tanks are often referred to as the European look down tanks, or coral gardens
... a lot of surface agitation
Silly question for ya. If this is a "look down" tank and you got a lot of surface agitation... then won't you just be looking at turbid water?
That's what I look at when I look down on my aquarium.

dejavu wrote:Twin external durso & 1 return with Locline. All 20mm
I too always like your Dural Irrigations plumbing, very neat... Do you have a nice diagram of how everything will be plumbed together? (including your yet to be decided skimmer).
It'd be nice to copy.. err I mean look at.
Also, Marks question about surface skimming... I gather it's a big deal otherwise why would ATJ go to the trouble of modifying his Bulkhead Overflow

dejavu wrote:I've decided to go with T5's because MH are difficult to photograph and this tank is quite shallow
You won't get as many glitter lines :poke: sparkle, sparkle

dejavu wrote:My nano is overflowing with corals, the refugium is completely packed out as well
Easy fixed, give some to me.
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Postby monkeymagic » Thu 15 Feb, 2007 10:19 pm

Just wondering with the calcium reacto (DB reeftech), what pump are you running on it as i am considering the DB 10D, does it use standard vinyl hoses (what diameter are they ??? 19mm??

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Postby jeremy76 » Fri 16 Feb, 2007 1:55 am

Hi Louis

I think you current setup will cause a scum of algae & flotsam to form on the surface of your water once you have had lights running for a few weeks.

perhaps if you modified one of these
http://www.berryhilldrip.com/images/AntFilter.jpg
which more commonly look like this on the outside (both ends can be screwed off)
http://www.growell.co.uk/imaggrup/small/153.jpg
by cutting a slot in the top, puttin an end cap on loosely & screwing the other end into the bulkhed - you could have a cheap easy black version of what ATJ has done with, perhaps, a finer "filter" and less water restriction. (in fact the bottom cutaway image in the top link above shows almost exactly what im thinking)
also a small return pump would help & would reduce surface agitation for better viewing.

whadya reckon?
of course it wont hurt to try what youve got first & change later :cheers:

as a man who has scum on his surface as we speak - i can tell you it aint purdy!

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Postby Mike C » Sun 18 Feb, 2007 2:18 pm

Ohhh ahhhh! Lookin good there! :thumbsup:
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Postby dejavu » Sun 18 Feb, 2007 10:29 pm

Surface agitation will remove some of the top viewing ability. However, it will still offer a better view than most aquariums. My aim isn't to provide the kind of view that's available with overflow tanks. Depending on how the powerheads are aimed, I probably could keep surface agitation to a minimum! The return line has locline on it to allow control. I'll try and draw up something if people are interested in the plumbing.

Henry, I am using a Hydor Seltz that pumps ~ 700lph. The vinyl hoses for the recirculation are 19mm if I remember correctly. The vinyl hoses for the feed is 15mm ones. They are all standard size fittings.

Jeremy, thanks for the links. I am not too concerned about surface scum since I use the exact same setup on my nano and I don't have any issues with them.


Quick update:

I got ~27kg of LR which came with a free pink Pocillopora sp. colony! The tank has began cycling with NH4 and NO2 readings. I've transfered the filter wool from my other tank to this one to assist the cycle.

I will need another 20 odd kg of LR, but in smaller pieces.

1: A bivalve that swims around when the light is out
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Postby silverseahorse » Sun 18 Feb, 2007 11:15 pm

Nice legs in the glass reflection ;)
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Postby scottrichards » Sun 18 Feb, 2007 11:30 pm

That's a lot of milo...

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Postby nanomilk » Sun 18 Feb, 2007 11:34 pm

silverseahorse wrote:Nice legs in the glass reflection ;)


I can't believe I just spent a good 5minutes trying to see these supposed legs... WHERE ARE THEY!? :roflmao:


Can't wait to see this stocked with coral louis. If its going to be anything like your nano... whoa... Beautiful
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Postby JonNyDexTeR » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 12:28 am

i love it- the 1ft height!

SPS haven... i can't wait to see this one

length and width is terrific. great concept-
this is gna be one colourful tank with spikey horns every where!
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Postby dejavu » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:07 am

You guys are all very bad! You are supposed to be looking at photos of bivalves and zoanthids, not milos and legs! :konk:

We get milo when they are on special, hence the stockpile. I am not a big drinker myself since I like it with steamed milk, but if I steam milk, I mind as well make a coffee :cheers:

I actually quite like the LR on the far right since it's full of different types of macro algae including Ulva sp. which I am quite fond of. It's great for the refugium since amphipods love them.

I just ordered 3 CO2 cylinders today.
2x Size F (22kg) - for the 4' and planted tank
1x size VT (10kg) - for the nano
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Postby TITANIUM » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:46 am

Oh man I cant spot the legs either! Or the Milo. Well that why I was never good at those "Where's Wally Books"

I love you bivalve, did that just come from your liverock or did you purchase it?
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Postby caevan » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 11:37 am

Glad to see you ended up going with a sand bed.
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Postby Faceofblue » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 11:44 am

And snakes on your boxer shorts, what are you trying to say?? Sorry couldn't help it. :poke:

I had a nice bivalve like that but someone in the tank ate it...
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Postby nanomilk » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 1:39 pm

Faceofblue wrote:And snakes on your boxer shorts, what are you trying to say?? Sorry couldn't help it. :poke:

I had a nice bivalve like that but someone in the tank ate it...


Me too! :konk:

I blame a big hairy crab!
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Postby Guv » Mon 19 Feb, 2007 2:35 pm

dejavu wrote:I just ordered 3 CO2 cylinders today.
2x Size F (22kg) - for the 4' and planted tank
1x size VT (10kg) - for the nano

Looking good Louis! :cheers:

Did you consider adding a tee and needle valve(s) to allow the 4' and planted to 'share'?
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