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PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby PranK » Thu 11 Feb, 2010 3:31 pm

Hi All,

New tank, new journal. I wasn't great at updating the last one, so will try my darndest to keep on top of this one.

I currently have a 6x2x2 in my office at home but unless you are in the office, you can't see it. So we decided to put a tank between the office and the loungeroom - in the wall. We were initially going to use another 6x2x2 but due to the wall and location of the studs we downsized to 5 foot wide but added 4" to the height of the tank so we could retain some of the capacity (and deep tanks look awesome).

The tank has just been finished and will be picking it up from Majestic Aquariums hopefully this weekend. Its a very typical euro-braced 5 footer with left hand corner weir and 3 holes drilled for drain and return. There will be no closed loop or anything like that.

I am planning to get a couple of Vortechs for my flow as I want minimal powerheads and heat in the water.

Also planning on using LED lights only. No more 1200 watts worth of halides! Sick of the power bills and heat generated by such huge lights. I will also be stocking mainly SPS as usual, so it'll be an interesting journey.

I'll be really taking my time with this build as my last few tanks have been forcebly rushed and this time I will be able to have my old tank running while I set this one up, so I can get all my plumbing and equipment perfect before stocking it.

Its gonna be fun! :)
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My tank uses 4.3 tonnes of carbon every year (1275 KW/h per 115 days). I have offset its carbon emissions, you should consider doing the same. (This was my 4 footer too!)
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Postby PranK » Thu 11 Feb, 2010 3:45 pm

So, my mate Ryan (Rhino on these boards) who reinforced the floor for my 6 footer ripped out the plasterboard from my wall and added a joist (?) across the studs as the wall is load bearing. You can see that we had to go through the wall behind my existing tank and into the 'garage' (quoted because its not really a garage, more a tiny fish room.) so it will be easy to drain straight from the weir into the sump.

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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby PranK » Tue 16 Feb, 2010 1:12 pm

So, my tank is ready to be picked up. I'll go and grab it this weekend.

Some decisions have been made;
I hate the ultra fine sand in my current tank, but I know the bacteria likes it, I'll put about 2" of the fine sand on the bottom of the tank and another 2 or 3 inches of coral bits (3mm ish). I want to try and get some good bacteria growing down there.
I will have a remote DSB, but it wont be as big as the current one (about 7 - 8 " deep) so I can put more live rock in the sump / fuge
The tank will use high output LED's... No halides. I'm done with them.

I cant wait to get started on the build.
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby Dr DBW » Tue 16 Feb, 2010 1:19 pm

How is the tank going to be placed in the photos you have above?
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby PranK » Tue 16 Feb, 2010 1:49 pm

The stand will be attached to the wall and will go through the floor (concrete slab below, this room used to be the garage.)
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Postby Dr DBW » Tue 16 Feb, 2010 2:00 pm

Flush against the wall on the right as well?
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby PranK » Tue 16 Feb, 2010 2:07 pm

100mm or so of the tank will sit on the wall (so the front pane is only recessed by the width of the gyprock) and the rest of the tank will sit on the new stand. The wall is load bearing, with the new beam taking the load, the studs will be strong enough to take the front of the tank.
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby siddr20 » Fri 19 Feb, 2010 9:34 am

Look forward to seeing the progress on this one prank!!
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby PranK » Wed 10 Mar, 2010 1:43 pm

Some new pics... Sorry about the quality,I'll use my good camera next time.

The partly molested wall...
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The tank ...
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The stand almost done...
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The stand from the 'garage'...
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Under the stand, prior to plastering ...
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Plastering started ...
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Plastering almost done ... (oh, and Ryan)
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Postby siddr20 » Wed 10 Mar, 2010 1:45 pm

Look good so far prank!! cant wait to see more updated progress pics.
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby Rhino » Sat 03 Apr, 2010 7:54 pm

Hey mate, started the plumbing yet ? ;)

I know you said you wanted to take this build slow but you cant keep us in suspense too long :devil:
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby PranK » Mon 03 May, 2010 11:03 pm

Ok ok ok... So I procrastinated for a long time about this one... I wanted to really take my time and get everything perfect. The problem is, I took too long and my wife is days from giving birth and ordered me to get the tank done before then.

So, this last weekend, I got the tank plumbed up, transfered sand, rock, corals and fish from the 6 footer, topped up the sand with the new 3 - 10 mm coral rubble (giving the sand bed a depth of around 12cm with more to add once it settles a little bit.)

I got 3 x 120W LED lights with an approx 14k temp. Two of these have been mounted temporarily until I finish my light rack.
I have an ATC800 temp controller to turn my chiller / heaters on when they're needed so they dont fight each other or stay on too long.

There is still a lot to do;
1. Big clean up in the garage. Its messy.
2. Ca Reactor to be plumbed up
3. Painting to be finished (yeah I know, this will be a bastard with the tank in place)
4. Extraction / Induction fans wired up for the chiller (will turn on with the ATC)
5. Aquascaping / Fixing the corals down (They are half in the sand, half on the rocks atm, poor things)
6. More, I cant remember atm.

Only 1 fish casualty. My yellow coral goby was crushed under a rock. I am heart broken.

Anyway, heres the current stage. I am *so* in love with it and can't wait to get it sorted.

The sump / fuge remained largely unchanged. I may eventually replace these with a 4 footer or something but not sure atm. Plumbing has lots of taps and screw joins for isolation / repair / adjustment and also a water change T / tap that will be plumbed into the IBC. A lot of rock that had Majano / Xenia has been moved to the fuge. Theres about 50kg's in the fuge and ~60 -70 kg's in the display.
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The outlet into the tank from the chiller has a T at the top and a cap. The idea is that I'll drill a hole in the cap to break any syphon when there is a power outage.
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From the back. Still very messy and very temporary. The poor empty 6x2x2 next door. :(
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Not sure how to make the PVC outlet more stealthy.
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Front shot. Only 2 of the 3 lights on (and they are angled towards the back atm - all temporary.) That poor wrasse survived 2 full days in 1" water + 1" sand in the old tank. He buried himself and I just couldn't find him. Then, late last night (Sunday) I saw his head poking out and I thought he was dead but he started flipping around, I threw him in the new tank straight away and he's been fine. There was so little water in the old tank that he would have been unable to swim at all.
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The front wall is still in primer... Need to pull my finger out (I hate painting.) You can thank my daughter for the sticker of Snow White under the tank.
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby sydneydrewid » Tue 04 May, 2010 7:16 am

oooooh, i like.. the frameless finish looks awesome!!!
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Postby PranK » Tue 04 May, 2010 9:52 am

sydneydrewid wrote:oooooh, i like.. the frameless finish looks awesome!!!


Thanks! The modern, minimalist approach was definitely what we were going for.

My 70 y/o father in law was arguing with me about how it needed a frame... Poor old fella. :poke: :wall:
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby DannyH » Tue 04 May, 2010 9:56 am

Looking good mate. So no front access at all? Is it hard to aquascape from the back?
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Postby PranK » Tue 04 May, 2010 10:07 am

DannyH wrote:Looking good mate. So no front access at all? Is it hard to aquascape from the back?


Thanks mate!

Yep, no access from the front. It is a bit of a bastard doing it from the back, but I just get my wife to direct me (we've only had a few arguments so far.) :) :D :wall:
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Postby DannyH » Tue 04 May, 2010 10:08 am

"But I thought the acro colony would look really cool on top of the Jardeni!"
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby ryanrid » Tue 04 May, 2010 10:27 am

looks great. will your skimmer support your propsed bio load with SPS
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Postby jordan » Tue 04 May, 2010 10:30 am

Looks great! Agree with no frame look. Very nice indeed.
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Postby PranK » Tue 04 May, 2010 10:38 am

ryanrid wrote:looks great. will your skimmer support your propsed bio load with SPS

Yeah, that skimmer is great. This is the third tank I have used it on. Undetectable nitrates/phosphates in the old 6 foot. I do plan on reducing my bioload by offloading a few of my fish anyway.

jordan wrote:Looks great! Agree with no frame look. Very nice indeed.

Thanks! :)
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Postby RedLineR » Tue 04 May, 2010 1:26 pm

Looking great. I still see a bit of a mess behind the scene still but the inwall is great :)
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Postby PranK » Tue 04 May, 2010 1:28 pm

RedLineR wrote:Looking great. I still see a bit of a mess behind the scene still but the inwall is great :)


Thanks! Oh, theres lots of mess. Its far from finished.
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Postby Rhino » Tue 04 May, 2010 6:01 pm

Looks exactly like we planned, maybe even better ;) ! Cant tell from the pics but is the top plaster set bead low enough to hide any light escaping when little waves run acros the front glass ?. I'm glad its finaly wet :thumbsup: Good luck with the :baby:

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Postby PranK » Tue 04 May, 2010 9:21 pm

Rhino wrote:Looks exactly like we planned, maybe even better ;) ! Cant tell from the pics but is the top plaster set bead low enough to hide any light escaping when little waves run acros the front glass ?. I'm glad its finaly wet :thumbsup: Good luck with the :baby:

Cheers Ryan


Its better than I imagined, thats for sure. Can't wait to get it all finished now.

The top is perfect, covers the water surface by maybe only 10mm so there is no light coming forward. There is almost zero glare on the tv, its really just awesome. You will need to drop over to see it in person.

Love your work mate. :)
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Postby shannonpayne86 » Tue 04 May, 2010 9:34 pm

Awesome build, congratulations.
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Postby StripestheEel » Tue 04 May, 2010 9:39 pm

Looks great Christian.
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Postby PranK » Tue 04 May, 2010 9:40 pm

Thanks guys. :)
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Re: PranK's 5x28x24 in wall experience

Postby CheezotheClown » Thu 20 May, 2010 1:42 am

How's the tank settling in so far?

Any news re the new :baby:
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Postby PranK » Thu 20 May, 2010 1:04 pm

Tanks doing well, will get some snaps today and upload them.

Baby arrived 2 weeks ago on Saturday. Little 8lb girl, Phoebe. :)
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Postby CheezotheClown » Thu 20 May, 2010 1:28 pm

Congrats Christian :clap:

Looking forward to the update :thumbsup:
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