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You didn't really want gold fish did you? -new pics 8/5/14

Postby Basenji » Sun 15 Nov, 2009 10:11 pm

Introduction:
My boy, Tom (11 yo) had been asking for some time about getting a tank for his room. It started out just wanting some gold fish. He toyed for a while with the idea of not getting fish at all, but going with a lizard or snake, then ended up with wanting a marine tank.

We put it off for quite a while, but he's grown up a lot this year, so we thought that we could do it as his Christmas present. There was obviously no hope of doing it secretly, and I'd much rather do it with him involved as much as possible anyway, so we've got in with a bit of an early start. The plan is to get it all going and cycled up in the shed, and then bring it down to his room around Christmas.

It has all turned into a bit of a project (and possibly getting just a little out of hand), but its starting to take shape.

System Objectives: A small, cost effective, low maintenance, quiet tank to house a few choice small fish, and some easy care corals.

System Type: Live rock, Fish and selected hardy corals

Display System:

Strike up Date: 1/11/09

Display Tank: 2' x 18" x 18", with back 100mm (4") divided off as a sump area.

Display Lighting: Solarmax 4 x HO T5 Fluorescent tubes. (2 x Sylvania Aquastar 10000K + 2 x Sylvania Coralstar Actinic)

Stand: Low-rise entertainment unit.

Hood: Open top

Sump: 100mm section along back of tank.


Refugium: TBD

Refugium Lighting: TBD. None at this stage


Support systems:

System Water: System startup using ASW. Water changes ongoing with NSW or ASW as availability dictates.

Display Water circulation: 2 x JVP 3000 LPH propeller pumps

Return Pump: Maxi-Jet 1200 LPHP

Skimmer: None planned at this stage

Evaporation Top Up:Auto topup (ATJ II) with Williamson Peristaltic Pump


Chemical Support:

Calcium Addition: Calcium Chloride solution. Made up as per Randy Holmes-Farley Improved DIY 2-part system.

Alkilinity Addition: Baked sodium bicarbonate solution. Made up as per Randy Holmes-Farley Improved DIY 2-part system.

Other Chemical Maintenance: Combined Magnesium Sulfate / Magnesium Chloride solution. Made up as per Randy Holmes-Farley Improved DIY 2-part system.

Current Water Chemistry: If applicable
Nitrates: -
Phosphates: -
Alkalinity: -
Calcium: -
Salinity / Specific Gravity: 35 ppt
Magnesuim: -


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We originally talked about just getting an all-in-one tank with a sump area at the back, and in hindsight maybe it would have been an easier way to go. But for better or worse, we (or probably more correctly, I decided to build our own, using a fairly standard 2' x 18" tank, and installing a few pieces of glass along the back. Here's the original concept.
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The reality ended up pretty close to that concept.

Tom filling the tank for a freshwater test. Passed with flying colours. I hope he learns to be a little less messy when it comes to water changes with salt water in his room.
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Adding artificial salt. I chose to set up the tank with ASW due to consistent rain around the time that we wanted to fill the tank, and the fact I had run out of supplies of Natural Sea Water. Going forward we'll use a combination of ASW and NSW depending on availability.
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You can't have a tank without the obligatory ATJ Auto Topoff II with Williamson peristalitic pump.
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Solarmax Light fitting:
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End view of tank. Sand in and lights on.
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Ready to rock and roll
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Postby sydneydrewid » Sun 15 Nov, 2009 10:22 pm

congrats :) great to see your son take an interest in this hobby :) good luck :)
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Postby tOiletduck » Sun 15 Nov, 2009 10:23 pm

Looks unreal Colin, wish i had a tank like this at your sons age. :thumbsup:

Cant wait to see how it turns out. :pirate:
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Postby jordan » Sun 15 Nov, 2009 10:25 pm

That's cool. i hope my kids will share my interests as well when they get a little older.
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Postby CheezotheClown » Sun 15 Nov, 2009 10:50 pm

I like the simplicity of the design.

I think you have gone for a much better option over an all-in-one type setup.
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Postby ryanrid » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 9:21 am

that is a really cool designed tank! good job, must be great to have your son interested in your hobby too. :thumbsup:
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Postby KirTracid » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 9:32 am

Looks fantastic Colin, I think Tom is going to have alot of fun, I know my boys do and they're similar age. It's looking great.

Are you planning on Tom dosing the two-part or you? That's one hurdle we can't quite cross, so the boys only keep softies (which is probably a good idea anyway for my boy)
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Postby Lukey » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 11:55 am

My one curiosity, how the hell are you gonna move that thing? Or just gonna empty like 80% of the water out to move it, then pour it all back in?

Looks excellent, beautiful tank design! And that's the best way ever to get a reef tank in your home....

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I'm sure he'll enjoy it, very nice design there :D
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Postby Basenji » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 1:38 pm

Thanks for all the comments guys. It has been fun to put together.

KirTracid wrote:Are you planning on Tom dosing the two-part or you? That's one hurdle we can't quite cross, so the boys only keep softies (which is probably a good idea anyway for my boy)

The plan is for Tom to do the dosing. I prepare bottles of the solutions for my own tanks, and it should be straightforward for him to toss in a measured dose (10 ml or so) of each when he feeds the tank. He'll have a checklist to tick off, just like his Dad uses ;)
I don't want to suck the fun out of it for him, so if it becomes a hassle I won't labour the point, and there's a good chance that it will end up being me that has to do it.
But he is adament that he doesn't want fish-only and wants to keep corals, so if that's the case then there isn't really any other way than to learn the discipline of doing the regular routine tasks properly and without fail. He's a great kid and has a pretty analytical mind, so I have every confidence in him, even if it does take a little while to pick up.

Lukey wrote:My one curiosity, how the hell are you gonna move that thing? Or just gonna empty like 80% of the water out to move it, then pour it all back in?

Yep, you got it in one. It will be cycled in the shed with just rock and sand. I'll empty the water down to sand level to make it liftable by 2 people, move the tank and re-fill it. That's the theory anyway :thumbsup:
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Postby pebbles » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 1:52 pm

Basenji wrote:The plan is for Tom to do the dosing. I prepare bottles of the solutions for my own tanks, and it should be straightforward for him to toss in a measured dose (10 ml or so) of each when he feeds the tank. He'll have a checklist to tick off, just like his Dad uses ;)


Thats a great idea! Before you know it, he'll be raiding your tank for frags too. :nut:
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Postby Siiri » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 1:54 pm

Tom's tank looks like it's going to be Fab Colin :thumbsup:

I'm so jealous as I wish my boys would have shown some interest in my hobby ... wait until Tom reaches late teens then it's
Party ... Girls ... Party ... XBox ... Party ... Beach ... Party :nut:
Some where in between one is attempting HSC study and the other works long hours so he can pay for Party/Girls/Xbox and his car he couldn't live without :wall:
At least the younger one enjoys Photography with Dad !!!
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Postby RedLineR » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 3:28 pm

That's a really great concept. :thumbsup:

Be interesting to see how it all pans out.
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Postby reefbuilder » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 4:20 pm

Looks really great.

It was my dad who introduced me to this hobby. Has given me years of enjoyment and kept me out of trouble. I think it is a very good hobby for young people to take up. Wish Young Tom the very best with the tank :clap:
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Postby Basenji » Thu 19 Nov, 2009 10:15 pm

A few pics of the aquascaping we did yesterday.

The rock has been in my Q-tank for a couple of years, so I'm not expecting much (if any) of a cycle. The white rocks are dry Caribsea Honeycomb rock.

Here's Thomas getting his hands wet. An introduction to what I consider to be one of the more difficult aspects of our hobby.
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Hmm ... how's that looking?
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One day later (photo taken tonight). Tank has settled, and I think it's looking really good.
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Postby CheezotheClown » Thu 19 Nov, 2009 11:56 pm

Not a bad arrangement at all. :clap:

Is the aquascaping going to need redoing when the tank moves?
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Postby ladybird » Fri 20 Nov, 2009 12:48 am

I must say - you've got one cool kid. Lol. My parents and older brother love my tank. But no-one younger than me enjoys it. My little cousin probably would if I put predators in.
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Postby dammit » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 3:39 pm

That is a great idea you've got going. well done on the progress so far. your little fella looks very excited by it all.

can I ask what sort of substrate that is/where you buy it, looks like really really white sand?
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Postby Lukey » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 3:43 pm

It's a new tank with new (I assume) substrate, under some nice lights, of course the sand looks really white. :roflmao:
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Postby blags » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 3:56 pm

Colin, tell Tom he has done a great job aquascaping :clap: :clap:
Looking like a very nice little setup. :thumbsup:

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Postby tommo77 » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 5:18 pm

Awesome!

Whats his plans for livestock?
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Postby n0rk » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 6:19 pm

He'll love those dimensions, for a small tank it's just about the perfect size :thumbsup:
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Postby Basenji » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 8:43 pm

dammit wrote:can I ask what sort of substrate that is/where you buy it, looks like really really white sand?

It's Caribsea sugar size aragonite sand.
There are a few MASA partners who sell Caribsea products, and most LFS should be able to get it in.

tommo77 wrote:Whats his plans for livestock?

His focus is mainly on fish. We've talked lots about what fish he wants to get, and at this point, I think that the list (subject to change) is
- a pair of black clown fish
- a flame hawk and
- a blenny of some description.
He's also taken a liking to my flameback angel, but he'll have to save up his pocket money for a fair while before that wish comes true.

He has a couple of chalice corals (Echinophyllia sp/) waiting in my tank at the moment.

Pebbles wrote:Before you know it, he'll be raiding your tank for frags too.

It's started already. Lots of subtle (and not so subtle) hints and requests. Frags I can handle. If colonies start going missing I'll know where to look first.
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Postby blacjack » Sun 22 Nov, 2009 8:49 pm

His tank's looking really good, and it's good he has a great mentor to help him out :thumbsup:
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Postby rgh » Mon 23 Nov, 2009 12:32 am

Well Tom's tank is looking wonderful Colin and I think its great he's taking such a hands on role in setting it up! I'm about to do something similar for Kieran but will probably go with a sump in cupboard underneath tank - I've got to use up some of the tanks and other equipment that's a bit surplus atm!

I'm really looking forward to watching Tom's tank develop!
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Postby RedLineR » Mon 23 Nov, 2009 9:44 am

Mt daughter will be doing the same thing. Followingmy foot steps. hahahaha
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Postby stoli » Mon 23 Nov, 2009 10:24 am

I didn't realise you built the tank Colin! It looks great. A neat setup for a young reefer.
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Postby Tom the Reefer » Tue 15 Dec, 2009 10:20 am

it is coming along now
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Postby pafc64 » Tue 15 Dec, 2009 10:45 am

Its awesome when you can get you Kids involved in things you like & they take an interest & want to do the same. :clap:
And what a bonus another beautiful marine tank :clap:


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Postby saolom » Tue 15 Dec, 2009 11:39 am

This is a GReat Xmas present! very nice.
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Updates??
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