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Jordan's Tank II (4x3x2) 23/1/2014 Changes are coming...

Postby jordan » Thu 25 Sep, 2008 12:21 pm

Introduction:
This is my second marine tank. Upgraded from my old 4 footer when moving house.

System Objectives: A healthy system.

System Type: Mixed Reef

Display System:

Strike up Date: 6/11/08

Display Tank: 4 x 3 x 2 Custom made 12mm glass / 15mm base. Eurobraced. Left hand corner weir + 2 x 40mm drains


Display Lighting: 2 x 250w MH Lumen bright mini pendants 14K Phoenix lamps + 2 x 54W HO T5 KZ Fiji Purple

Stand: DIY

Hood: DIY

Sump: Using old 4 footer as DSB sump

Refugium: 100cm x 50cm x 50cm Fuge

Refugium Lighting: Ecolamps sump light (custom made)


Support systems:

System Water: Natural salt water

Display Water circulation: 2 x Vortechs MP40w ES + 1 x Tunze 6100 + single controller

Return Pump: Laguna 9000

Skimmer: ATB Medium cone skimmer

Evaporation Top Up: Guppies pump with float switch connected to Guppies Auto top up relay system

Chemical Support:

Calcium Addition: Kamoer 3 pump dosing unit

Alkilinity Addition: Kamoer 3 pump dosing unit

Other Chemical Maintenance: Magnesium top up with Epsom salts / Kent Tech M
Biological additives: NP pellets (1.5L) in FBF + Prodibio BioDigest 1 ampule every fornight
Current Water Chemistry:
Nitrates: Undetectable (Salifert)
Phosphates: 0.03-0.04 (Hanna phosphate egg)
Alkalinity: 8.6
Calcium: 430
Salinity / Specific Gravity: 1.027
Magnesuim: ? Higher than norm to control bryopsis with Kent Tech M


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Current tank Spec:Current 5x2x2 tank here
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Postby StripestheEel » Thu 25 Sep, 2008 11:37 pm

Cant wait...........................


FOR PICS!!!!!!!!
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Postby jordan » Thu 25 Sep, 2008 11:53 pm

Matt,

I haven't got the tank yet!!! I just paid for it tonight (Thanks Paul from Ocean Reeflections!). Come to think of it We've only just got the keys to the new place today as well.

Should have delivery next week. Keep me posted for when you consider selling them Tunzes :thumbsup:
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Postby jordan » Tue 30 Sep, 2008 3:30 pm

Here's the stand being built with the help from my brother in law.

Begining the frame construction:

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Bottom corner join:

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Top corner:

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Almost done......just need to put in the 45 degree angle braces on the legs and the struts on the bottom.

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The calcium reactor shown in the pic is the Reef Octopus CR100 which was generously given to me by Reef Octopus Australia for winning TOTM a few months back (Thanks Reef Octopus + MASA).

The stand is already very sturdy and with further bracing we are pretty confident that it will hold a lot of weight.

I will be giving it a few coats of paint when it's finished. Polyurathane side panels will be added later.

Hoping to get the tank delivered this coming weekend or early next week.
Current tank Spec:Current 5x2x2 tank here
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Postby snaza » Tue 30 Sep, 2008 6:58 pm

I love the dimensions so tagging along to see how it goes. Going to be another TOTM soon (-;

My next tank will be 3 ft deep. Do you reckon the MHs will cover the 3 foot depth or you planning on having a big open sandbed at the front with low light corals? Im curious cuz im planning my tank and wandering the same thing. i will probably end up getting 10x80W Ati powermodul.
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Postby jordan » Tue 30 Sep, 2008 11:54 pm

A couple of reasons why I didn't go too deep
1) Tank would not fit through the door of it was 3 foot high
2) Would probably need a bit more lighting (400w) instead of 250w.

I think you'd get away with low light corals on the bottom of the tank if you had 250w but I think most would probably recommend 400W for 3 foot deep.

I'm planning to have more open space rather than having a wall of rock work like my old tank. I want something like a left side wall face with a pillar on the right hand side.

Here is the completed stand framework (still painting needed)

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The Lumenbright Mini Pendents (Thanks Caio from Ausfrags for getting them in)

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and the garage where the sump / equipment will go + NSW storage tank (Thanks StripestheEel)

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Apologies for the crap pictures as I'm using the camera phone. Should get better pics once we actually move into the house and set up my proper camera equipment.

My thanks goes to my brother in law that has helped me make this stand.....and later on the hood.
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Postby StripestheEel » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 1:21 am

:thumbsup: Stand looks very well built!
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Postby snaza » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 9:18 am

jordan wrote:A couple of reasons why I didn't go too deep
1) Tank would not fit through the door of it was 3 foot high
2) Would probably need a bit more lighting (400w) instead of 250w.

I think you'd get away with low light corals on the bottom of the tank if you had 250w but I think most would probably recommend 400W for 3 foot deep.

I'm planning to have more open space rather than having a wall of rock work like my old tank. I want something like a left side wall face with a pillar on the right hand side.

Here is the completed stand framework (still painting needed)

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The Lumenbright Mini Pendents (Thanks Caio from Ausfrags for getting them in)

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and the garage where the sump / equipment will go + NSW storage tank (Thanks StripestheEel)

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Apologies for the crap pictures as I'm using the camera phone. Should get better pics once we actually move into the house and set up my proper camera equipment.

My thanks goes to my brother in law that has helped me make this stand.....and later on the hood.



Sorry jordon, when i say deep i dont mean high. 3 foot front to back :thumbsup: How do you thing the MH will go front to back for the 3ft

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Postby jordan » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 10:24 am

Snaza, I think it should be fine. From what I've read about the lumenbrights the spread is pretty good providing that they are mounted about 16-18 inches off the top of the water.

I don't really want to keep anything close to the front glass so I don't mind if there isn't a lot of light there. The lights will be offset a little more to the back of the tank.

If it does appear too dark in the front I will supplement with some t5 lighting.
Current tank Spec:Current 5x2x2 tank here
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Postby bubbleboy » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 10:31 am

Looking Good Jordan
That Stand looks very well made, I'm sure it could hold and elephant if you try.. :roflmao:

Keep em pic's coming Mate :clap:
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Postby jordan » Wed 29 Oct, 2008 10:37 pm

Tank has arrived!

Got delivered by Paul from Ocean Reeflections last Saturday. I am very happy with the quality and the service I recieved. Paul kept me informed all the way when there were some issues having the tank delivered on time.

I was pleasantly surprised when I was informed that instead of 12mm glass it's been made with 15mm all round (at no extra cost).

Here is the top down shot showing the bracing

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The corner bracing

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And the full tank shot at freshwater testing stage (no leaks).

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Overall I am very impressed with the quality with the tank. I still have the plumbing to do so it's going to be a while yet before it gets filled with water and rock.
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Postby jordan » Tue 04 Nov, 2008 10:50 am

The holes have been drilled into the garage.
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The drains from the tank into the garage

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Acrylic rods made up to try construct / support rock (note: next time use thicker rods as they snapped from the base before putting the rock into the tank). There are pieces of rod in the rocks to help support the structure.

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Base rock used to form a bommie

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Not really a full tank shot....more like a half tank shot of the full tank.

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Didn't have enough water to fill the tank and everyone around Sydney West ran out of water.
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Postby StripestheEel » Tue 04 Nov, 2008 12:01 pm

Looks awesome man.
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Postby Chow » Tue 04 Nov, 2008 12:20 pm

Hey Jordan I don't know if its just me but your stand looks like its bowing in the middle in that last half full tank shot. Great build though. Should turn out great.
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Postby jordan » Tue 04 Nov, 2008 12:39 pm

Chow wrote:Hey Jordan I don't know if its just me but your stand looks like its bowing in the middle in that last half full tank shot. Great build though. Should turn out great.


I think it's the camera lens.....don't know what it's called....vignetting???

The stand is definitely straight.

I can't wait to have it set up.
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Postby iron man » Sat 08 Nov, 2008 2:32 am

nice one Jordon, Where did u get the base rock from ?
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Postby jordan » Sun 09 Nov, 2008 10:36 am

Rocks in the tank + whatever lifestock I had left (not much)

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Side shot

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Fish are still in quarantine after getting whitespot ( I think the move stressed them too much) due out in 2 weeks.

Iron man - base rock I got from Action Garden and Aquariums in Chullora (just off the Hume Hwy)

Still need to connect the sump in the garage (cycling DSB at the moment).
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Postby bradw6860 » Sun 09 Nov, 2008 10:47 am

shot of the lb's and how you hung them please!!
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Postby iron man » Sun 09 Nov, 2008 11:06 am

nice rock work, jordon.

How deep is your coral sands ?
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Postby Chow » Fri 14 Nov, 2008 4:29 pm

Tanks looking great Jordan! I think this will be stunning once it's all stocked up. Would love to come and check it out one day. How's the sump configuration set up and size?
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Postby StripestheEel » Fri 14 Nov, 2008 11:32 pm

Looks the goods mate. Like the scape.
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Postby Scooby » Sat 15 Nov, 2008 7:09 am

Can you supply a picture showing the light pendants, ballasts and tank from a distance?

Are they dimmable and /or are you going to supplement the 250's with T5's?

I have been intrigued by these pendants for quite a while.
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Postby jordan » Sun 16 Nov, 2008 12:00 am

Stay tuned guys. Will have posts with photo's on all those questions asked. Just spent the better half of the day plumbing in the sump and skimmer.
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Postby jordan » Sun 16 Nov, 2008 3:10 am

shot of the lb's and how you hung them please!!


As with most of the DIY work my brother in law helped me with it. I asked him what the little black plugs were but he didn't know the name....all I know is that they use them to hang lights. Drill a hole in the ceiling and knock in one of them plugs. At the base there is a hole in which the chains are thread through.

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How deep is your coral sands ?


Not very deep. About 1 and a half inches...some places are deeper due to the water flow. I have a separate DSB in the sump.

Tanks looking great Jordan! I think this will be stunning once it's all stocked up. Would love to come and check it out one day. How's the sump configuration set up and size?


Let me know whenever you feel like popping in :thumbsup:
The sump is my old 4 footer converted into a DSB. I haven't completed the setup yet as I still need to plumb in more equipment (chiller, fluid bed filter (Rowaphos), calcium reactor). So please excuse the mess.

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I have some temporary baffles to section off the return pump (Laguna max flo 3500)

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Looks the goods mate. Like the scape.


Thanks Matt! Can't wait to see your beast of a tank next year!

Can you supply a picture showing the light pendants, ballasts and tank from a distance?

Are they dimmable and /or are you going to supplement the 250's with T5's?

I have been intrigued by these pendants for quite a while.


Here's a pic a little further back

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As you can see I've reserved some space for myself for a bit of R&R.

The ballasts are located in the garage. I am using Stingray Filters ballasts purchased from Reefing Life. I think they are pretty good as they produce very little if any noise at all. They do not have the ability to dim as they are magnetic ballasts.

Here is a pic with 2 x T5 actinics on as well

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I don't see too much difference, so I might not use them.

Skimmer - Finally plugged it in. Got it from a MASS member so I'm not really sure what brand it is. I think it's a Skimsidea. It's a twin pump recirclulating skimmer (Aquabee 2000i)

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Caused a major flood when I first turned it on due to this........

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Either my daughter or my nephew must have put it into the outlet pipe of the skimmer.....darn kids.

This is the skimate after about 1 1/2 hrs of turning it on

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I'm impressed with the skimmer as the tank has nothing but a few corals. The fish are in quarantine so there is very little bioload in the tank at the moment.

That's it for now. Still a lot of work to do hooking things up. I plan to get the auto topoff done next.

Also had a chat with a kitchen guy about polyurathane panels for the stand and hood. I was shocked to hear that the cost is $160 per square metre......if anyone knows where I can get a better deal or where I can try get a better quote please let me know as I am looking at about 7 square metres in total for the tank and some doors for a shoe cupboard.
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Postby saltydog » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 11:04 pm

jordan wrote:Also had a chat with a kitchen guy about polyurathane panels for the stand and hood. I was shocked to hear that the cost is $160 per square metre......if anyone knows where I can get a better deal or where I can try get a better quote please let me know as I am looking at about 7 square metres in total for the tank and some doors for a shoe cupboard.


Expect to pay around $85 M2 for painting, min 3 sheets HMR MDF melamine $90 a sheet plus cutting, del, etc
All up around your looking around $135 M2 doing it yourself. (Square edge plain door)

I would pay the extra $25 M2 and let them deal with any problems.
That is assuming the $160 incl. all materials?
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Postby damoztishfank » Mon 17 Nov, 2008 11:15 pm

I went to a boat shop and bought norglass weathershield marine enamel polyurathane paint its a 1 pak enamel which can be brushed one and its self leveling paint so you dont see brush marks...... i sprayed it with a spray gun and it came out fabulous....
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Postby jordan » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 1:30 am

Thanks guys!

Salty dog...if that's the case then yeah I wouldn't bother and just pay it. The cost does include materials.

damoztishfank wrote:I went to a boat shop and bought norglass weathershield marine enamel polyurathane paint its a 1 pak enamel which can be brushed one and its self leveling paint so you dont see brush marks...... i sprayed it with a spray gun and it came out fabulous....


I'm definitely going to look into this option. You can hire spray guns yeah?

The other option was to go with laminex which was about $60 per sqm.
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Postby damoztishfank » Tue 18 Nov, 2008 8:50 am

Hey Jordan, i bought a spraying kit from a local hardware which included a gun and a few various other tools for around $50 if you would like you could borrow mine ....you would then just need access to a compressor and more then likely there would be someone here who could lend or even hire.....
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Postby StripestheEel » Fri 21 Nov, 2008 6:49 pm

Looks great Jordan.

Where'd ya get the acrylic rods from :poke:
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Postby jordan » Sat 22 Nov, 2008 7:59 pm

StripestheEel wrote:Looks great Jordan.

Where'd ya get the acrylic rods from :poke:


Uummmm..ahem....Parramatta Westfield.....Lincraft
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