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Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby fishlover » Sun 04 May, 2014 1:44 pm

I will be buying a Royal Exclusiv Double Cone 200 skimmer from Aquabella in the next few days and was wondering if it is worth the extra money buying the one with the variable speed RD3 pump.
Whats everyones thoughts?

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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby chromus » Sun 04 May, 2014 5:29 pm

Get the normal pump - I know of at least 1 DC pump where the controller failed and RE (not Aquabella) are trying to duck the warranty.

The AC pumps are pullet proof, the DCs (and their controllers) are yet to prove themselves long term.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby fishlover » Sun 04 May, 2014 6:06 pm

Thanks Phil.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby NewyReefer » Sun 04 May, 2014 6:25 pm

I went ac for the double cone 200 I didn't think the controller was necessary but I also think it depends on your stocking aswell whether you would want to turn it down..
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby notsomot » Sun 04 May, 2014 6:41 pm

I went the RD3, controller failed. Was cheaper to get new hole new pump than repair.
IMO the controller is a 20 dollar PCB (with no safeties) in a pretty enclosure that serves no purpose. Once you have tuned it once your never going to play with it again.

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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby muz_z » Sun 04 May, 2014 7:32 pm

There is nothing wrong with the controllers on the rd3 this must be the only controller failure in the world

The only way it would fail would be due to user either trying to modify it or shorting it out

Mine and many others running RD3 don't have any issues and good to be able to control the pump
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Raven » Sun 04 May, 2014 7:35 pm

Is it really beneficial to control the pump? Or is it mainly a gimmick?
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby adammcintyre » Sun 04 May, 2014 7:46 pm

ive got a ATB Eleglance 220 skimmer with dc pump, i never touch the controller. i think its a bit of a gimmick
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby notsomot » Sun 04 May, 2014 7:52 pm

muz_z wrote:There is nothing wrong with the controllers on the rd3 this must be the only controller failure in the world

The only way it would fail would be due to user either trying to modify it or shorting it out

Mine and many others running RD3 don't have any issues and good to be able to control the pump


Speaking from your hole month of running the pump..
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby muz_z » Sun 04 May, 2014 7:55 pm

Touch a sore point Mot..

By that reaction sounds like it was yours that failed wonder how that happened hey!
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Raven » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:01 pm

He admitted it failed. I don't see what your insinuating here?
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby muz_z » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:09 pm

But how!

Anyway Raven I can insinuate anything I like :devil:

Let's keep on topic hey...
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby notsomot » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:12 pm

muz_z wrote:Touch a sore point Mot..

By that reaction sounds like it was yours that failed wonder how that happened hey!


I can tell you exactly what happened, the ribbon cable got trapped into the casing that caused a dead short. The seal was still in tact and no modification to the controller could of caused this. The controller has been reviewed by REs electrical engineer and they also agree.

Wonder how much under retail I have to sell a product to have so much loyalty?

But back to the orginal question, if I had the choice I wouldn't go the RD3 again. Its a gimmick nothing more.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby muz_z » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:15 pm

[quote="Notsomot"][quote="muz_z"]Touch a sore point Mot..

By that reaction sounds like it was yours that failed wonder how that happened hey!

I can tell you exactly what happened, the ribbon cable got trapped into the casing that caused a dead short. The seal was still in tact and no modification to the controller could of caused this. The controller has been reviewed by REs electrical engineer and they also agree.


That's why they didn't replace it under warranty then hey LOL.....

Wonder how much under retail I have to sell a product to have so much loyalty? Jealous. Hehehe :roflmao: I don't have a problem with money Mot so if I want it I get it and not worry about if someone got it cheaper than me....

But back to the orginal question, if I had the choice I wouldn't go the RD3 again. Its a gimmick nothing more

Thats why you bought one wasn't it hmm disgruntled buyer
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby NewyReefer » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:17 pm


Wonder how much under retail I have to sell a product to have so much loyalty?


Don't think that was called for mate do you even know the bloke.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby muz_z » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:20 pm

That's just him having a cheap shot as always till he doesn't like it and removes it or gets another mod to remove been going on for a while now

Makes a big huff then buries his head then post get modified or removed

Let's just cut the crap and keep the thread on track hey...
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby chromus » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:28 pm

Muz_z we remove content that is against the rules, as you well know, you have had your fair share of posts moderated.

Everyone please stick to the topic, Kean asked a question, if you have input on that then post, if you have had your say, move on.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby muz_z » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:47 pm

chromus wrote:Muz_z we remove content that is against the rules, as you well know, you have had your fair share of posts moderated.



Thanks for the public announcement of that Phil well moderated :bow:
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby fishlover » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:50 pm

Geez this has gone South very quickly lol.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Aquanet » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:51 pm


ive got a ATB Eleglance 220 skimmer with dc pump, i never touch the controller. i think its a bit of a gimmick


Can't agree more, having controller on a skimmer is a big gimmick.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Sun 04 May, 2014 8:53 pm

lol to some of the above posts.

If it were me I would probably go the normal pump, as stated the DC pumps aren't as well tested and have had issues.

However it mightn't be as big of an issue if you buy from an Australian importer with parts in stock :) .
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Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Sun 04 May, 2014 9:00 pm

I couldn't resist... lets all take the advice of the chilled fluffy animal...

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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby ryanrid » Sun 04 May, 2014 10:09 pm

I've just pulled the trigger on a rd3 skimmer for the sole reason I do t want to over skim my tank. With this option, as running zeo, I don't want to suck out what I'm adding and hoping to better fine tune my nutrient import/export. I have been using a kz revolution (beckett) for 3 years so looking forward to the technology upgrade.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Aquanet » Mon 05 May, 2014 1:17 am

I don't think it makes a difference as a skimmer is not selective on what it removes.
With using zeo you want to remove as much as you can as you are adding nutrients daily with the zeo additives, so if you don't you will get algae in your tank.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby dougie » Mon 05 May, 2014 8:41 am

i think ryanrid talking about removing the Zeo additive via over skimming, therefor lessening its affect on the tank.
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Aquanet » Mon 05 May, 2014 8:50 am

Wont make a difference as you are adding it daily
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Amphibian » Mon 05 May, 2014 9:30 am

Why do mods remove thread on my experience of the rd3 pumps and back ground info on then
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Mon 05 May, 2014 9:39 am

Amphibian wrote:Why do mods remove thread on my experience of the rd3 pumps and back ground info on then
Please explain


Probably because your an exempt business user, I would think it would be alright if you posted it from your aquabella account?
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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby fishlover » Mon 05 May, 2014 9:40 am

I'm guessing its because of you association with the brand in question.
Pretty silly really as we are not comparing 2 different brands.

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Re: Bubble King Skimmer with or without RD3 Pump

Postby Amphibian » Mon 05 May, 2014 10:38 am

fishlover wrote:I'm guessing its because of you association with the brand in question.
Pretty silly really as we are not comparing 2 different brands.

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