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Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby rosechaser » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 11:12 am

Any one have any idea on the guppy's 1000W titanium heater against the schego 600w...my heaters won't fit into the sump
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby peekandboo » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 7:51 pm

Ones made in China (guppys)
Ones made in Germany (Schego)
Two completely different heaters in quality.
Schego all the way :nod:
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby marks » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 8:02 pm

If you do buy the guppy 1 check the price of buying the heater and controller seperatly, works out cheaper.
I think Rusty1 used the guppy version ask him.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Andries » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 8:29 pm

peekandboo wrote:Ones made in China (guppys)
Ones made in Germany (Schego)
Two completely different heaters in quality.
Schego all the way :nod:

Have you seen them make the Schego in Germany?? If you don’t know then don’t comment.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Dan » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 8:47 pm

Unless I have gotten bad at English recently the wording on my Schego Box says "Made in Germany" :-s
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby chromus » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 8:48 pm

The way the schego site reads the heaters may not be built in the fatherland any more as they proudly talk about the membrane pumps being German made but not the heaters.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Andries » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 8:53 pm

Same as a lot of products now day, if the box is printed in Germany they can call it made in Germany. I am not sure where Schego controller is made but know the heater factory
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Rusty1 » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 9:58 pm

I have had 1 of Guppy's 1000w heaters now for 4 years.

The control unit went this year, not sure why but my best guess was the sensor probe died and the readings were inaccurate. Any probe, be it Profilux or who ever, all recommend changing probes between 1 and 2 years so getting close to 4 was pretty good.

The heater itself has just served its 5th year and was controlled by the profilux and is great.

Cant comment on the Schego but it would be my guess the chances of it being made in Germany are small.

It really is amazing the number of consumers that believe what they read on packaging. Not all countries have the same standards when it comes to what they can put on a label.

When I was in clothing it was 16% of the retail sell had to be Australian content to get the "Aussie Made" stamp.

this usually consisted of pressing the garments and labelling them :roflmao:
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby peekandboo » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 10:11 pm

Andries wrote:
peekandboo wrote:Ones made in China (guppys)
Ones made in Germany (Schego)
Two completely different heaters in quality.
Schego all the way :nod:

Have you seen them make the Schego in Germany?? If you don’t know then don’t comment.


O yes Captain what ever you say :bored: I do know have you done your research :book:
The company

"SCHEGO Schemel & Goetz Elektrogerätebau in Offenbach am Main was founded by Fritz Schemel and Kurt Goetz in 1949.
Initially, the company focused solely on making products for aquariums and SCHEGO soon ranked among the leading manufacturers of aquarium heaters and air-pumps.
Over the years, the products made in Offenbach came to be used not only in aquariums but also in a variety of other fields, especially in connection with medical, bio-medical and hospital equipment and for instrumentation and control applications. Moreover, the range of products for garden ponds has been expanded continuously over recent years.

Thanks for the many years of experience and specialisation in the field of membrane pumps and heating and control technology, modifications to existing solutions in accordance with project-specific requirements rank among the special strengths of the customer-oriented service offered by SCHEGO.

The use of high-grade materials and adherence to exacting production standards guarantee that SCHEGO products are always of the highest quality – exactly as expected from products 'Made in Germany' – a fact that is particularly important for foreign sales with 50 % of the company's production being exported to countries around the world.

Continuity is also ensured by the SCHEGO management, which is now running the family company in the third generation"

News just out Ferraris and now made in Thailand :roflmao:
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby pebbles » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 10:29 pm

rosechaser wrote:Any one have any idea on the guppy's 1000W titanium heater against the schego 600w...my heaters won't fit into the sump


Sorry can't help with the 1000w unit, but yeah the Schego 600w is quite long. Guess you've tried placing it horizontally?



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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby dorz » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 10:44 pm

how long are the shego 300w units?
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby peekandboo » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 10:48 pm

dorz wrote:how long are the shego 300w units?


300w is 26cm long, i have the 300w & 600w
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby chromus » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 11:11 pm

Rusty-Naturist wrote:When I was in clothing it was 16% of the retail sell had to be Australian content to get the "Aussie Made" stamp.


Please tell me you aren't going ou-naturale now you are "out" of clothing. :poke:
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Rusty1 » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 11:17 pm

chromus wrote:
Rusty-Naturist wrote:When I was in clothing it was 16% of the retail sell had to be Australian content to get the "Aussie Made" stamp.


Please tell me you aren't going ou-naturale now you are "out" of clothing. :poke:


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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby chromus » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 11:20 pm

That's a relief
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Flipper » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 11:25 pm

Lets face it ..China makes just about everything..maybe not a full component but probably the smaller parts to make the component. Maybe its products are slowly becoming quality products because their os customers are demanding it for themselves. So Germany wants 1million quality "x" so China make 2 million and use the other million for their own products. So end result is the Chinese made items are improving quality as well. There will still be the cheaper crappy stuff but you will see more and more quality stuff. My theory anyway
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby terbit » Tue 13 Sep, 2011 11:28 pm

Rusty1 wrote:
chromus wrote:
Rusty-Naturist wrote:When I was in clothing it was 16% of the retail sell had to be Australian content to get the "Aussie Made" stamp.


Please tell me you aren't going ou-naturale now you are "out" of clothing. :poke:


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chromus wrote:That's a relief


Probably more of a relief for Cam :roflmao:
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby rosechaser » Wed 14 Sep, 2011 12:43 am

WOW that was more of a response than I expected!!
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Phenom » Wed 14 Sep, 2011 2:09 pm

peekandboo wrote:
Andries wrote:
peekandboo wrote:Ones made in China (guppys)
Ones made in Germany (Schego)
Two completely different heaters in quality.
Schego all the way :nod:

Have you seen them make the Schego in Germany?? If you don’t know then don’t comment.


O yes Captain what ever you say :bored: I do know have you done your research :book:
The company

"SCHEGO Schemel & Goetz Elektrogerätebau in Offenbach am Main was founded by Fritz Schemel and Kurt Goetz in 1949.
Initially, the company focused solely on making products for aquariums and SCHEGO soon ranked among the leading manufacturers of aquarium heaters and air-pumps.
Over the years, the products made in Offenbach came to be used not only in aquariums but also in a variety of other fields, especially in connection with medical, bio-medical and hospital equipment and for instrumentation and control applications. Moreover, the range of products for garden ponds has been expanded continuously over recent years.

Thanks for the many years of experience and specialisation in the field of membrane pumps and heating and control technology, modifications to existing solutions in accordance with project-specific requirements rank among the special strengths of the customer-oriented service offered by SCHEGO.

The use of high-grade materials and adherence to exacting production standards guarantee that SCHEGO products are always of the highest quality – exactly as expected from products 'Made in Germany' – a fact that is particularly important for foreign sales with 50 % of the company's production being exported to countries around the world.

Continuity is also ensured by the SCHEGO management, which is now running the family company in the third generation"



Hmmm so the company blurb states one thing. Doesn't state anything about guaranteeing that everything is built and made in Germany.

There are things 'made in Australia' that are NOT made here, they are just packaged here.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby chromus » Wed 14 Sep, 2011 2:47 pm

Holdens - Assembled here but largely kitted overseas.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby peekandboo » Wed 14 Sep, 2011 3:15 pm

chromus wrote:Holdens - Assembled here but largely kitted overseas.

No comments about Holdens please :nono: :pirate:
Only negative comments about Fords aloud
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Phenom » Wed 14 Sep, 2011 3:21 pm

:withyou: I second that one peek :pirate: :pirate: :pirate:
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Ben Paul » Wed 14 Sep, 2011 4:14 pm

Wouldnt buy anything but Schego
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby somethingfishy76 » Wed 24 Oct, 2012 11:35 am

Are these titanium heaters that uh better than my glass one? Is there something that sets them appart?
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby chromus » Wed 24 Oct, 2012 12:42 pm

They really are, they do need an external thermostat to control them, but they are a lot more robust and some people argue more efficient.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Aydee » Wed 24 Oct, 2012 12:56 pm

Andries is likely correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Germany

"Made in Germany" is not controlled by a central regulatory body.

In 1995, the Oberlandesgericht Stuttgart ruled that the term Made in Germany is misleading according to Germany's Fair Trades Act when the largest part is not German raw materials or German craftsmanship.

So, I am happy to agree that Schego are German Engineered/designed and PROBABLY manufactured to their standards in an approved plant.

However, I don't have any schego equipment. So. I'm just guessing. You could email them I suppose.
info@schego.de

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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby firechild » Thu 25 Oct, 2012 5:43 pm

Schego heaters have passed GE standards testing, Guppy's heaters have more than likely got little more than a CE approval which is the most basic international electrical approval (a self assessed approval by the manufacturer required for electrical items imported into the EU though many EU countries require further approvals). Neither have SAA approval which is the required approval for electrical items in Australia and New Zealand.
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby tremble » Thu 25 Oct, 2012 6:03 pm

Phenom wrote:
peekandboo wrote:"SCHEGO Schemel & Goetz Elektrogerätebau in Offenbach am Main was founded by Fritz Schemel and Kurt Goetz in 1949.
Initially, the company focused solely on making products for aquariums and SCHEGO soon ranked among the leading manufacturers of aquarium heaters and air-pumps.
Over the years, the products made in Offenbach came to be used not only in aquariums but also in a variety of other fields, especially in connection with medical, bio-medical and hospital equipment and for instrumentation and control applications. Moreover, the range of products for garden ponds has been expanded continuously over recent years.

Thanks for the many years of experience and specialisation in the field of membrane pumps and heating and control technology, modifications to existing solutions in accordance with project-specific requirements rank among the special strengths of the customer-oriented service offered by SCHEGO.

The use of high-grade materials and adherence to exacting production standards guarantee that SCHEGO products are always of the highest quality – exactly as expected from products 'Made in Germany' – a fact that is particularly important for foreign sales with 50 % of the company's production being exported to countries around the world.

Continuity is also ensured by the SCHEGO management, which is now running the family company in the third generation"



Hmmm so the company blurb states one thing. Doesn't state anything about guaranteeing that everything is built and made in Germany.

There are things 'made in Australia' that are NOT made here, they are just packaged here.


Perhaps I am just being anal, but that doesn't say the products are made in Germany. All it says is that you can expect the same quality as product that is made in Germany....
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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Kransky » Thu 25 Oct, 2012 6:42 pm

The Hella orange spinning lights you see on top of service vehicles has a big "Made in Australia" printed on the box. The orange light cover is the only thing made in aus, everything else has a sticker sayin made in Bolivia or something :wall:

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Re: Guppy's Titanium vs Schego heater

Postby Reidy » Thu 25 Oct, 2012 10:28 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Germany

I think I would trust Wikipedia about as much as a made in germany label :roflmao: :roflmao:
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