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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Tue 07 Apr, 2015 10:13 pm

Yeah been hanging out to start on the plumbing for ages. Planning to have one run that will go straight to the drain and the other to the sump (the pics above shows the run going to the sump). The painting has been very annoying actually mainly as there's lots in the way and the room is not that big. Bit almost there.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 12:08 am

Plumbing finally finished and sump tank in position...

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Couldnt help but move in some gear...

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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 12:11 am

Now that ive put the sand in the sump as I had planned to do a dsb but now having second thoughts about it (although I never had any issues with it on my previous tank).. thinking perhaps remove the sand and fill it with live rock and macro algae...

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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby blacjack » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 9:19 pm

Coming along nicely :clap:

I prefer DSB's on my system and have never had a system without one, though I would like to have the best of both worlds if possible.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:53 am

How deep do you normal have them? And do you put in anything else other than sand? Ive only got about 3 inches in that section as it was going to be combined with lr and cheato but if I block off the section of sump beside the dsb than ii can have both, means waiting another week to let the glue cure :(
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby wayne2.0 » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:31 am

Coming along really well,
What did you paint the wall with behind the sump tank? is it a sealer or ??
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Thu 23 Apr, 2015 7:42 pm

Hi wayne, I didnt need a 100% seal so didnt use a water proof membrane. I used crommelin aquablock waterproof paint which is a primer,sealer, binder and uundercoat. (Mould, mildew and stain blocking). Got it at bunnings
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby blacjack » Fri 24 Apr, 2015 8:58 pm

forsaken wrote:How deep do you normal have them? And do you put in anything else other than sand? Ive only got about 3 inches in that section as it was going to be combined with lr and cheato but if I block off the section of sump beside the dsb than ii can have both, means waiting another week to let the glue cure :(


I've usually had a DSB in my display tank, though in my last one I went with 125mm in a refugium which worked well. I've now gone to just short of 300mm deep as an experiment on my latest tank as I've seen this done before and liked the idea. The baffle is a bit over 300mm high so the water only skims over the surface instead of having a great water volume. I just don't think you can beat a DSB for nitrate control.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby Nailsinside » Wed 06 May, 2015 11:18 pm

Great work so far Forsaken, I dream of doing a build like this.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Sun 17 May, 2015 9:49 pm

Thanks mate, im happy with the overall look of the tank and setup so far, ive had to fix quite a few things during the build thus why its taking about 18 months to get to this point.... :)
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Sun 17 May, 2015 9:53 pm

Haven't had much time of late but i did have the tank and pumps running for most of today. All was good, though just a little tweeking required on the drain as its 40mm and a lot bigger than what i need. Ive been also working on a backup over flow drain which will only take water if the main drain gets blocked as im a little worried about the tank flooding especially because its inbuilt into the wall. Both drains as of tonight are in and i just need to test the backup drain. Once tested and hopefully all is good then the tank pumps will be left turned on.

Left pvc is the backup drain
Middle pvc is the main drain
Right pvc is the return

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The main drain is a stockman drain. The pvc open pipe is the backup

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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Tue 02 Jun, 2015 12:33 am

Ok so after hours and hours stuffing around with trying to get the backup over flow to work, I finally ripped it out and bought an ato with relay from guppies which will cut the power to the main pump as soon as the float is submerged, it just needs glued into the weir then the backup is done.

After tweaking the plumbing to reduce some of the turbulence and noise, I noticed one spot that was dripping slightly at one of the joins, I ended up changing the junction (sump or drain junction) in the plumbing from a 90o and about a 20cm drop to a y joint so to reduce the noise and no drop (its not actually that loud though), I then extended the plumbing further along the sump tank and created another section that will be for more live rock and misc items.

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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Sun 14 Jun, 2015 12:31 am

Finally all equipment on... some gurgling from the drains going into the sump and can hear the occasional gushing sound coming from my stockman drain.... a few more tweeks required...

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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby 3xion » Mon 15 Jun, 2015 4:53 pm

been watching this with interest and have to say its awesome :D
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Tue 23 Jun, 2015 11:59 pm

Thanks 3xion, the project has been quite involved i must say but getting very close now. Been quite busy of late so haven't had a lot of time to fix a few things up. Filtration is going well but still need to add in more rock to the sump and raise the depth of the dsb. Also need to hook up my ato but not worried about it at this point as i am raising the salt level by replacing evaporated water with more salt water. Return section in the sump drops about an inch per day.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Sun 28 Jun, 2015 11:34 pm

Ended up putting a 90° barb on the end of one of the drains that goes into the sump, partially submerged and no more bubbling or gurgling.

Put the maxspect gyre into the tank last night and the amount of crap it moved from around the rocks was crazy, though it only ran for a few minutes and have a flashing red light on the controller, cant seem to get it to work for more than a few minutes. Took the rotors apart and gave them a wash but still no good, need to play more, hopefully its not faulty.

Tested the water last night and all is good so will look to get a few fish real soon.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby wayne2.0 » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 11:17 am

What is on the shopping list?
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby Vilante » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 1:00 pm

What a mega install!! Amazing.
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Mon 29 Jun, 2015 11:45 pm

Thanks Vilante. Its been over 12 months in the making.... and counting... :)

Good question Wayne, the Mrs wants the typical clownfish/blue tang combo. Im keen on a bicolor angel or flame angelfish. Even thought of a copperband butterfly fish. Im wanting to get a pair of redline cleaner shrimps eventually so need to pick fish that will go well with them.
Other than the above im open to ideas, i like the puffers but have heard they can make things very interesting if they get stressed.... gotta head down to a few fish aquarium places and see what's available. My preference would be to buy tank bred
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby wayne2.0 » Wed 01 Jul, 2015 1:08 pm

My wife wants a puffer too :) they are great fish with a personality....just not really good in anything other then fish only.

Tangs all the way for me
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby 3xion » Wed 22 Jul, 2015 3:10 pm

hows it looking buddy ?
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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby Nailsinside » Thu 23 Jul, 2015 11:29 pm

:withyou:


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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby forsaken » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 10:13 pm

Hi all.. sorry been awhile without an update, been really pushed for time of late but I've since now got in the tank:

Brain Coral
green mushrooms
2 strombs
short spine urchin
sand sifting sea star
small red sea star
2 clowns
Blue tang

Not putting in anything more until a hook up the ato, rodi unit, and the drain to waste. I bought a gyre but seems to be faulty so it's in for repair so unfortunately the tank doesn't have that much flow. Im also trying to source some macro algae but not having much luck. Overall happy with the way things are going at the moment. here are some of the latest pics

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Re: Forsaken's 4x2x2.5 - WIP

Postby Nailsinside » Mon 27 Jul, 2015 1:15 pm

Looks great Forsaken! I love your fish room, its my dream to have one just like it one day :)

Thanks for the update, hope all goes well for you and you get some more low in the DT.
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