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Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Fri 28 Jun, 2013 7:15 am

Hi all,

I'm Adam, first time aquarium owner. I have always wanted one since seeing an uncles mixed reef, I purchased an 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' tank and stand off eBay about two years ago - got it for $800 brand new. A young guy had it made for his home but moved shortly after and it wouldn't fit. The glass was still in the crate - 12mm thick and weighs a fair bit.
It sat empty in my house until a visit to S.E.A. On Sentosa island, Singapore got me motivated to make it happen. I purchased my lights, canister filters (stand too small for sump) and filled it up with fresh water to test.
I've done a lot of reading on this forum since the day it first got wet and have learnt a lot, I've since purchased a heaps more gear and everything is running well.

System Type: mixed reef - currently only a couple soft corals, zoos, 5 fish and critters

Display System: Custom built 8'x2.5'x1.5' approx 750liters

Strike up Date: Jan 2012

Display Tank: as above

Display Lighting: 4 x e.shine aquasun controller LEDs (fully automated, hourly settings)

Stand: Stained pine

Hood: Stained pine (very slim, LED lights were my only option)

Sump: sumpless

Refugium Lighting: NA

System Water: RODI/home salt mix

Display Water circulation: 2 x vortech MP60wes

Return Pump: 2 x Fluval FX-5 canister filters (foam only, cleaned quarterly)

Skimmer: Skimmerless

Evaporation Top Up: Tunze ATO

Heating/cooling: 2 x 300w heaters in display, 1HP hailer chiller fed by Fx5. Both controlled by DIY thermostat.

60kg base rock, 40kg live rock (ningaloo reef)
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I let it cycle completely with no water changes, all parameters returned to 0

Once the cycle finished I had a bit of an algae outbreak - po4 was through the roof and I believe this is why my nitrates were 0pmm.
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Lots of water changes and some rowaphos in a reactor got it under control - po4 is at 0ppm (Hanna)

My heaters and chiller started overlapping despite my best efforts to set them correctly so I build a thermostat (I got the idea/recommendation from this forum). It's set for 25.5deg with 0.5 drift before heating or chilling kicks in.
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The 1hp hailea chiller drops the tank 0.5 degree in about 10minutes
Usually only kicks in once a day in the warmer months.
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First fish - Victor the lawn mower blenny.
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Then a pair of sand sifting gobies. They've kept the sand bed perfectly clean, they never stop.
One has turned out a bit dominant and bullies the other a lot, the victim is looking a bit skinny as he's too scared to come out to eat.
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Then a pair of WC clowns with their nem, they hosted it immediately and followed it as it moved around the tank for a day looking for its final resting place....at the back of the tank where you can't see it from the front :/
This was after it tried throwing itself through an MP60 and then into the fluval intake. Both times I had to pull it out - no damage thankfully. He was too big to get sucked into the mp60 (no foam cover).
His thrown his foot down and hasn't moved since-very happy and growing at a remarkable rate!

First placed into tank:
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It's resting place, with his clown buddy.
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Lots of things appearing on the live rock now since parameters have been good.
Like these things, look like tiny anemone growing? Hard to get a decent photo of them.
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Worms?
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Some zoos
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First coral. Are there two anemone in the rock it came on?
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Second soft coral
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Fox face cleaned up the hard to reach algae.
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Re: First timer - 8' tank

Postby chromus » Fri 28 Jun, 2013 11:23 am

Thats a monster for a new guy :thumbsup:

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Re: First timer - 8' tank

Postby adamonline » Sat 29 Jun, 2013 4:49 am

Updated first post with more photos.

Current parameters

Salinity: 1.0235
Temp 25.0-26.0 (25.5 set point)
PH: 8.1 (API)
Phosphate: 0ppm (hanna)
Amm,nitrite,nitrate: 0ppm (API)
Calcium: 400 (hanna)
Alk: 7.8dkh (hanna)

Using Red Sea, just switched to Red Sea coral pro to help bump up calc/alk.


My ph used to be a bit higher when using aqua one salt mix, since switching its dropped. How low is too low?
It's stable - doesn't fluctuate so I haven't worried about it.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Wed 03 Jul, 2013 6:23 pm

Some Photo updates.


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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Mon 15 Jul, 2013 12:42 am

I jumped on AquaticLog today - updated what I could. Very good page, works with the iPhone too which is handy.

my profile (shows all parameters etc) can be seen here: http://www.aquaticlog.com/aquariums/adamonline/1


Can anyone give me an ID on that second soft coral? Its name has slipped my mind.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby kit » Fri 19 Jul, 2013 1:17 pm

Nice tank Adam :)
Not sure what that 2nd coral is.. Some sort of tree coral.. I just don't know which one exactly

Regarding your low Ph, is your hood closed? does your powerheads cause surface disturbance?
Without a sump or skimmer, perhaps your water is not aerating enough.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Sat 03 Aug, 2013 11:21 am

Fish added this week:

2 blue tangs
1 powder brown tang

Coral added:

1 Blue/Green Hammer coral

All doing well - Pics to follow.

Current Levels: (pic updates daily automatically)
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Sat 03 Aug, 2013 9:36 pm

Someones Carrying Eggs.


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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Thu 08 Aug, 2013 2:36 pm

Photo Update

The three Tangs

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Hammer Corals

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Tree Corals
First one has grown a fair amount

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Second one is new
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Other new corals

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xenia has grown a lot too

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Lots of eggs - I assume snail eggs?

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patrick messing with the Tunze ATO overflow sensor

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Maybe a full tank shot this evening when the sun sets - too much reflection on the glass at the moment.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby saltymike » Fri 09 Aug, 2013 12:21 am

Tank looks great mate. Hope everything keeps running smoothly for you. :thumbsup:

Isn't the volume a bit more than 750L, I thought it'd be up around 800L+ range?

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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Fri 09 Aug, 2013 12:59 am

Thanks Mike. so far so good. everything seems stable and happy.

You'd think it would be bigger than 750 - but its a skinny tank unfortunately. In hind site i would have liked a front to back measurement of 2 or even 2.5' to make it a bit easier to place rocks and coral and still have a bit of free sand. But the tank was an ebay job and got it pretty cheaply so I snapped it up. Also 2.5' deep is a bit much - as good as it looks, its a pain to reach into when I drop something to the bottom.

The tank is 8' long by 2.5' tall and 1.5' front to back (2419mm x 756mm x 457mm for the metric people) and its all 12mm glass and i have the water level about 25mm from the top of the rim which gives me an internal dimensions of 2.395m x .719m x .443m which is a volume of 762.8 liters (2.395*0.719*0.443*1000=762.8482).

I unfortunately didn't think to measure the water that was displaced when putting the sand and rock in, It would have been handy to know exactly how much water I've got in there as I'm looking into dosing ca/alk down the road. I'll work it out though.

Thanks again Mike :)
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby saltymike » Fri 09 Aug, 2013 3:38 pm

yeah the depth is such a good thing to have when it comes to scape etc. my first 4fter was 1200 x 380 x 550 which was a major PITA. reaching down 550 mm wasn't an issue but the 380 mm narrowness was.

your rock sand etc could displace around 50L+ probably.

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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby kit » Fri 09 Aug, 2013 3:57 pm

I'm pretty sure those are turbo snail eggs. I see them on my rocks all the time and my snail population is increasing!
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Sat 10 Aug, 2013 11:35 am

Looks great, and yeah turbo eggs no question :thumbsup:
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 8:58 pm

Finally Got a decent camera with custom white balance.

So here is my first true to life colour full tank shot:
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Full size image (24MP) here:
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Postby xixau » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 12:20 am

looking good Adam, :cheers:
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 12:39 am

:withyou:

Any plans on how your going to fill out the scape?
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby kell » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 12:51 am

Any Information on the thermostat. where and how you built it? need something like this for my tank
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 4:57 am

cody.sheridan-2008 wrote::withyou:

Any plans on how your going to fill out the scape?


No idea. Im a bit limited due to the tank only being 1.5 foot front to back. I'll have to try find some rock and start stacking.

kell wrote:Any Information on the thermostat. where and how you built it? need something like this for my tank


Get yourself a thermostat off ebay (see below)
then get A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN to wire the outputs to a couple power points in a box like mine is - its the simplest way to go and should one of my heaters die, i can simply unplug it and replace it - no need to get my electrician friend to open it up because its all hard wired.

The sensor is included with the thermostat, you can adjust the temp of the STC-1000 should it be a little out - Mines 0.2deg off the mark so its been adjusted accordingly.

One piece of advice for your electrician when wiring it up - install a fuse or resettable breaker (thats what I used) on the unit as there is nothing build into the STC-1000.

If you need more info - send me a PM. but as per forum rules and friendly advice - DO NOT attempt to do it on your own-get a sparky. Heaters and chillers draw a lot of current and incorrect wire selection or termination could result in a fire or an electrocution risk.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AC-220V-All-purpose-Digital-Temperature-Controller-with-Sensor-STC-1000-10A-/400434235872?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item5d3bbd89e0&_uhb=1
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 4:59 am

few more photos:

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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby Ben S » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 9:58 am

Good shots :)

What LED light system are you running?

Have you found you've needed your Chiller?

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Postby Thommo01 » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 10:59 am

Great macro shots. What did you use?
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Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 11:46 am

Ben S wrote:Good shots :)

What LED light system are you running?

Have you found you've needed your Chiller?

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E.shine AquaSun controller LEDs. See my first post on page one for details. I highly recommend them.

Yes the chiller would kick in once a day back in April/may when it was warm. The tank would cook without it in an Adelaide summer.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 11:53 am

Thommo01 wrote:Great macro shots. What did you use?


Thanks. I've got a Nikon D7100 I set a custom white balance using a white card in the tank and I was using a 40mm F2.8g DX macro lens (Nikon) for most shots, sometimes the 18-105mm for the fish.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby kell » Mon 19 Aug, 2013 10:34 pm

adamonline wrote:
cody.sheridan-2008 wrote::withyou:

Any plans on how your going to fill out the scape?


No idea. Im a bit limited due to the tank only being 1.5 foot front to back. I'll have to try find some rock and start stacking.

kell wrote:Any Information on the thermostat. where and how you built it? need something like this for my tank


Get yourself a thermostat off ebay (see below)
then get A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN to wire the outputs to a couple power points in a box like mine is - its the simplest way to go and should one of my heaters die, i can simply unplug it and replace it - no need to get my electrician friend to open it up because its all hard wired.

The sensor is included with the thermostat, you can adjust the temp of the STC-1000 should it be a little out - Mines 0.2deg off the mark so its been adjusted accordingly.

One piece of advice for your electrician when wiring it up - install a fuse or resettable breaker (thats what I used) on the unit as there is nothing build into the STC-1000.

If you need more info - send me a PM. but as per forum rules and friendly advice - DO NOT attempt to do it on your own-get a sparky. Heaters and chillers draw a lot of current and incorrect wire selection or termination could result in a fire or an electrocution risk.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AC-220V-All-purpose-Digital-Temperature-Controller-with-Sensor-STC-1000-10A-/400434235872?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item5d3bbd89e0&_uhb=1


Awesome thanks for the info. Just purchased the thermostat off ebay. My 3 best mates are all sparkies so will get them to wire it up.
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Re: Adams 8' x 2.5' x 1.5' - 750Liter

Postby adamonline » Fri 11 Oct, 2013 3:47 pm

Photo update:

Not too much going on. Coral growth is pretty impressive. The anemone has moved for the first time since it went in - I think it was crammed in behind the rock so it needed more space. Its easily doubled in size since i got it.

I got some frags off a guy on gumtree - just zoanthids and one SPS to see if it likes my tank. Should the SPS survive I'd look into getting some others.

I had a rather strange scum on the water surface for a little while - wasn't too sure if it was pulverised GFO floating or not. But after some reading decided it may be a sign my organics are through the roof - there is no protein skimmer.
So i threw on another TwoLittleFishies 550 reactor and got some RowaCarbon running in it - Problem solved in 48hrs. Water clarity is a lot better too now.
I used to run the RowaPhos reactor via a submersible pump inside the display tank but have since modified my circulation/water change manifold to incorporate 2 outlets for reactors.

I set up my mixing station in the garage. RODI unit is now wall mounted and the waste water is going through the wall to an IBC outside which will gravity feed the fish pond in the backyard via a float. I also use this water on the garden. No wastage is the goal.
Just need to think of something useful to do with the waste salt water from water changes, anyone here use it for anything? I'd assume it would kill off my veggie patch or lawn due to the salt?

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Turbo sniffed out the new additions pretty quickly and bee-lined for them. He did a pretty good job

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The test-dummy SPS. Will be interesting to see what it does.

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RODI wall mounted and the 200liter 'wheeliebin' for mixing. Has a heater, powerhead and pump inside for sending the water to the display.

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Waste water goes through the wall and is collected for the outside fish pond ATO and garden watering etc.

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The circulating/water change manifold.

Water comes from one of the FX5 canisters and enters top left. Goes around the bend, back to the display tank via the bottom red valve. The two green valves are for GFO and Carbon HOB reactors (TLF550 reactors)

for water changes:
The quick connect on the left is the water dump - goes via garden hose to the drain
The quick connect far right is the water fill up - Comes from the 200liter wheelie bin in the garage.
Works a treat and never spills a drop.

I'm off to work for 4 weeks - I'll be keeping an eye open for frags, I've got a couple racks on the go. Hopefully get some good growth and will glue down my zoathid farm when I get back home.
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