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Deester's Downgrade - New Pics 14Oct12

Postby Deester » Tue 08 May, 2012 11:36 am

Introduction:

Pulled down the last 48x30x18h system due to the expense (mainly lighting) of running it ... This tank is exactly half the size of the previous, but in theory should only use a third or less of the power :crossfingers:

System Objectives: To try and run a cranking heavily stocked colourful SPS tank with LED's only. :poke:

System Type: SPS dominant with a few LPS (possibly).

Strike up Date: TBA.

Display Tank: 30x24x18h

Display Lighting: 2ft Inwatter LED.

Stand: A custom Gwith cab finished in white. :bow:

Sump: 2 Section, 24x18x16h

Refugium: nope

Heating/Cooling: Jagar 250w Heater


Support systems:

System Water: ASW - D+D H2Ocean

Display Water circulation: 2 x Tunze 6095's with a Tunze 7096 controller

Return Pump: Tunze Electronic adjustable 900-3000lph

Skimmer: A noisy Bubble King Mini160

Evaporation Top Up: Tunze Osmo

Chemical Support:

Calcium Addition: Calc via Kamoer dosing pump

Alkilinity Addition: Alk via Kamoer dosing pump

Other Chemical Maintenance: Prodibio ... with a few little blue bottles thrown into the mix.

Current Water Chemistry: If applicable
Nitrates:
Phosphates:
Alkalinity:
Calcium:
Salinity / Specific Gravity:
Magnesuim:

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Crap pic of the tank in the man cave awaiting the trip to the lounge room.

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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby ACRO AL » Tue 08 May, 2012 11:58 am

Deester wrote: System Objectives: To try and run a cranking heavily stocked colourful SPS tank with LED's only. :poke:



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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Dan » Tue 08 May, 2012 12:05 pm

good to see this finally taking shape, looking forward to tagging along for the ride Dee, If anyone can get SPS cranking under an LED it will be you. I'd be looking at retrofitting some violet LED's into the unit if you want to keep pinks and reds though.
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby ClayLutt » Tue 08 May, 2012 12:10 pm

should be a ripper!
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Mr Reefer » Tue 08 May, 2012 1:17 pm

Dan wrote:good to see this finally taking shape, looking forward to tagging along for the ride Dee, If anyone can get SPS cranking under an LED it will be you. I'd be looking at retrofitting some violet LED's into the unit if you want to keep pinks and reds though.


I run a simple 100W LED unit on my system 50/50 white/blue and am keeping reds and pinks with absolutely no issue at all. Anyone that has seen my pink birdsnest in person will agree that it is about as pink as you can get!

Sorry to hi-jack the TJ - look forward to tagging along as it might inspire me to ditch the RSM and do a new ground up system. :thumbsup:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby dejavu » Tue 08 May, 2012 2:16 pm

Looking forward to seeing the new tank take shape. I remember you were up in Sydney before right?
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby bubbleboy » Tue 08 May, 2012 2:36 pm

dejavu wrote:Looking forward to seeing the new tank take shape. I remember you were up in Sydney before right?

WARNING Louis , Stay way away from Dee…. He WILL steer you in to the dark side !
And Yes.... ex-NSWsh man :nod:

Looking good Dee :)
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Sin » Tue 08 May, 2012 5:53 pm

Awesome Dee, Can't wait to see this up and running.

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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby uglyman » Tue 08 May, 2012 7:16 pm

Welcome to the dark side (LED users) Deester :devil:

We need you with us in our fight against those rebel scum (Halide users) :poke: :roflmao:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby locuus » Wed 09 May, 2012 12:58 am

Can't wait for this one to be up and going :) LED's all the way :devil:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby rodneyri » Wed 09 May, 2012 12:37 pm

good stuff Dee, any thoughts on fish list yet?

with those blue bottles...i swear by the one with the K :) blues are stunning from it
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby dejavu » Wed 09 May, 2012 1:00 pm

bubbleboy wrote:
dejavu wrote:Looking forward to seeing the new tank take shape. I remember you were up in Sydney before right?

WARNING Louis , Stay way away from Dee…. He WILL steer you in to the dark side !
And Yes.... ex-NSWsh man :nod:

Looking good Dee :)

Dave, I have already gone down the path to the Dark side :devil:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Deester » Wed 09 May, 2012 1:45 pm

G'day Gents ... and Al :poke:

Thanks for all the comments :thumbsup:

Yep, looking forward to seeing what can be achieved with LED's :nod: Having seen some successful SPS tanks around that run on LED's only, I am relatively optimistic :crossfingers:

I always say this ... But I remember when I was first investigating T5's for SPS 3-4 years ago before diving into a T5 only driven SPS tank. Back then there was a LOT of naysayers and speculation saying that T5 did not have the intensity nor spectrum to sustain good SPS growth and colour. Although at that time there where a bunch of Euro reefers with thumping SPS systems run only on T5 ... I am hoping that it is a similar case with LED's :crossfingers: Time will tell. :pirate:

dejavu wrote:Looking forward to seeing the new tank take shape. I remember you were up in Sydney before right?


Hi Louis,

Yeah mate I was in Sydney with work for 3 years before returning to Melb :thumbsup:

dejavu wrote:Dave, I have already gone down the path to the Dark side :devil:


Aint that the truth ! Your shallow 4ft SPS reef was a major influence for me ... absolutely loved that tank :-x Daryn1 did wonders with that tank too ;)

rodneyri wrote:good stuff Dee, any thoughts on fish list yet?

with those blue bottles...i swear by the one with the K :) blues are stunning from it


G'day Mate ...

Currently thinking along the lines of ...

Lori Anthias - 6
Royal Gramma - Pair
6line Wrasse - 1
Potter's Angel - 1
Red Spot Blenny - 1

Regarding the blue bottles ... Yeah the K balance is great, just have to tread lightly with it, as overdosing can cause issues :nod: Pohls Extra is a goodie too ;)
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Sailfin » Wed 09 May, 2012 1:59 pm

Need freight rates to melb mate :wink:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Daz the reefo » Wed 09 May, 2012 9:03 pm

Nice Dee, can picture it already, out of curiosity what issues do you come across with k balance overdose?

love the fish choice too
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby parrdog » Wed 09 May, 2012 10:42 pm

I love the fish choice, too :).

I like the choice of going with one variant of Anthias too, it will look very effective.

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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby rodneyri » Thu 10 May, 2012 9:15 am

Daz the reefo wrote:Nice Dee, can picture it already, out of curiosity what issues do you come across with k balance overdose?

love the fish choice too



pale out the corals and look like an Alk spike with burnt tips. then everything dies. I did it :wall:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Deester » Thu 10 May, 2012 10:55 am

Daz the reefo wrote:out of curiosity what issues do you come across with k balance overdose?


rodneyri wrote:pale out the corals and look like an Alk spike with burnt tips. then everything dies. I did it :wall:


:withyou:

Pretty much what Rod said :nod:

I found when I went a little overboard with K Balance that the SPS looked "dusty" ... in that colour went flat, washed out and tips looked brittle. I think similar issues can arise from over doing it with sponge power too as I was using both at the time of the issues I had. :thumbsup:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby pazz » Thu 10 May, 2012 5:31 pm

looks good dee , whats the plan for the scape ..
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Scottief » Thu 10 May, 2012 5:42 pm

Hey Dee glad to see your on your way back :clap: :pirate:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Deester » Fri 11 May, 2012 12:18 pm

pazz wrote:looks good dee , whats the plan for the scape ..


Cheers mate :thumbsup:

Regarding the scape ... I'm unsure at this stage :madface: Due to tank dimensions, choices could be limited ... maybe.

First idea is to go along the line of my SPS rimless tank I had in Sydney ... I do like a low flat scape, although this time around I would include more stags to grow up through the scape.

Old Syd Tank -

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Second idea is to go for the two island/bommie idea, similar to below I like the depth this gives and like the style of scape ... as to whether it would work in a tank this size ?

Two island/bommie style -

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Final idea would be a Bonsai style scape and as much as I love them ... a) there's less room for Acro's :devil: b) I don't think I have the design skills to design what I would be happy with :nut: ... Although if I got the right live rock I'd love to give it a shot.

Bonsai style that I like -

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Anyway ... not sure which way I'll go in the end :pirate:
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Dan » Fri 11 May, 2012 12:55 pm

go the bonsai Dee :devil: less is more in tanks so don't put as many acro and save your pennies for the really top shelf sticks
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby pazz » Fri 11 May, 2012 1:45 pm

pic 3 is my choice bonsai looks awesome when done right
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby shannonpayne86 » Fri 11 May, 2012 11:19 pm

I love the second pic. I think Strendo's tank looks phenomenal. :thumbsup:
What ever it will be I'm sure it will be a cracker.
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Nitro2010 » Sat 12 May, 2012 9:43 pm

Hi man... your tank is great! Where did you purchase it?

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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby Rod the Reefer » Sat 12 May, 2012 10:06 pm

Yeah, I like the bonsai too. Unfortunately I keep filling my tanks up with coral!

Every faith in you Dee.

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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby CBrian » Sun 13 May, 2012 4:23 pm

I like the bonsai, but it's awesome to have a low scape and watch it grow out.
Ive got a really low scape (25cm) in a 2 foot deep, and it's not looking great now, but when it's 15cm taller and all grown out I'll have a nice 3 step shallow reef scape covered in corals.
If I was you; id go for a hybrid of a shallow island and the bonsai.
Either way, when you've got 2 years of coral growth any scape looks good IMO!
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby scotto » Mon 14 May, 2012 10:00 pm

Awesome dude, good to see all the bits and pieces coming together :pirate:

Might have a frag or two for you :poke:

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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby kell » Tue 15 May, 2012 12:45 am

Go the second scape. looks awesome. i prob prefer the second one over the bonsai.
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Re: Deester's Downgrade

Postby evilr1 » Tue 22 May, 2012 12:14 am

Tagging along Dee!! Inspiration to us all!!
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