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Wazza's 7x3x3 *leaked/empty/ gone finished complete

Postby wawazza » Tue 10 May, 2011 9:50 pm

Just arrived today my new tank (well second hand) and requires some TLC..

It is a 7x3x3, has 2 x 150mh in the hood along with a 6 foot fluero...

Bonus is it came with 2 tunze wave makers and times plus an array of other bits an peices i didnt realise i was getting.

It has an awesome external sump ill take some photos tomorrow.

What i need to know is the best way to fix a leak in the glass, and also how i should fix the stand it has some water damage, it is form ply i believe...

ive been cleaning the glass with vinegar and also diluted some vinegar and am going to soak the pumps etc overnight in a bucket...

anyway here is a photo...

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I will take more photos tomorrow and keep everyone posted..

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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby WarbyD » Tue 10 May, 2011 11:00 pm

I'd ditch the stand... damage looks far too severe to bother trying to fix it ... Plenty of chippies up here that could knock something up for you for a carton or two if you supply the material..

Got any more info about the leak? Where is it? How severe is it? Is it a seam that's leaking or is there a crack in the glass?
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Tue 10 May, 2011 11:07 pm

Yer it's a vertical seem leak front left corner above the damage on the stand. Previous owner fixed it by applying silastic to the outer of the tank, he obviously didn't drain it to repair... Now I have time to fix it up spot on.... I'm assuming it's fixable....

I just had a mate over who is a chippy, he said it is madeout of form work ply with iron on edging... I will go out and get some cut shouldn't be to hard to fix as it's only one end and the front top panel and they are all separate...

It came with a protein skimmer, but it's small and dodgy, I was looking at a few that are suitable for 2000 liters for about 600$$.
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby WOWvillian » Tue 10 May, 2011 11:21 pm

The stand doesn't look very high, before buying a skimmer i would check the specs on your possible skimmer to see if it fits.

Or design a new stand to suit the skimmer you want. :poke:
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Tue 10 May, 2011 11:28 pm

My sump doesn't actually go under the tank it goes next to it... Any skimmer reccomendations? I just tested the tunze pumps goes well..
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Wed 11 May, 2011 12:12 am

below is a photo of my external sump..

also i got 2 external filters, should i use them?

also a photo of my overflow

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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby rnscross » Wed 11 May, 2011 3:15 pm

two points to consider would be drilling the tank and maybe finding a better position for it as in front of a window could cause some issues down the line with heat.
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Wed 11 May, 2011 4:21 pm

Heat from window is a good point, i missed that...

Drilling tank instead of an overflow?

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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby WOWvillian » Wed 11 May, 2011 4:56 pm

From what i have read the hang on overflows tend to be less reliable and need a lot of tinkering, and you will want a minimum of two overflow pipes for backup.

If you do a search on here for Bean animal and durso it will bring up some vasluable reading about it or here are a few i had bookmarked mate.

http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx

http://www.masa.asn.au/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=168430%22%3EUses%20a%20syphon%20(and%20durso%20backup)%20overflow%20design


EDIT: If you do an advanced search and limit it to tank journal section it should bring you up many options of what people have done, hopefully with pics for you.
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Thu 12 May, 2011 12:50 am

Quick update, I purchased 2x 400w mh today to I'll have them along with 2x 150w....

Also went to the hardware store and fixed the cabinet, was quite easy. Cleaned some silastic off and tomorrow will fix the leak and run a new bead the whole inside seams of the tank.... May be looking at water and sand by the end of the weekend...
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Postby WarbyD » Thu 12 May, 2011 3:21 am

Give that silicone a week or so to cure after you fix the leak...
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Thu 12 May, 2011 11:30 am

may be looking at the water next week then , cheers
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Postby wawazza » Thu 12 May, 2011 4:02 pm

WOWvillian wrote:From what i have read the hang on overflows tend to be less reliable and need a lot of tinkering, and you will want a minimum of two overflow pipes for backup.


So i am going to get the tank drilled for piping in the "overflows".

What size should i use? i am thinking of going PVC. any reccomendatiosn on size etcm and what equipment do you mount in the whole you drill?

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Postby wawazza » Fri 13 May, 2011 11:15 am

So last night i finished my stnad repairs (ill post a pic) i was lucky enought eh damage was not structual so it was quite an easy fix (the mrs is happy).

Also cleaned 6 inch above and below the leak site and re applied aquarium safe silastic. (the waiting game begins)

Put the glass back on the stand. Im heading out in the boat this weekend to investiagate some possible islands that have the whitest sand.. I will be collecting "wet sand" probably from a sand bar.

My new found mate (owns Australian Coral Farms) is going to supply me with im thinking 6 x boxes of live rock. Im thinking of putting the sand rock and water in some time next week and letting the cycle begin..

ITEMS I NEED TO BUY:

Large protein Skimmer (the one i have is small)

Chiller (i dont want to muck around with temperatures)

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*Set up sump, i have a 3 section and im thinking DSB/Skimmer/bioballs water entering through a filter sock...
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby rnscross » Fri 13 May, 2011 1:43 pm

id remove bioballs have a refugium to help with phosphate/nitrate export and produce microfauna for the tank to eat.
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Re: Wazza's 7x3x3 (req TLC) suggestions

Postby wawazza » Fri 13 May, 2011 3:09 pm

refugium is a section with algae??
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Postby kj52faith » Sat 14 May, 2011 2:08 pm

Refugium is a section iin the sump that contains macro algea.. you can run a dsb sitmultaniosly with the macro in one section but you have to have quite a high sump... Also if you want to get a good skimmer for this beast you will need to spend over 700
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Postby kj52faith » Sat 14 May, 2011 2:25 pm

http://www.proteinskimmer.com.au/index. ... ucts_id=57 thats around the lowest priced skimmer to suit your tank
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Postby wawazza » Sat 14 May, 2011 3:05 pm

Thanks kj52faith,

I have been looking at lots of skimmers and that what ive needed someone to push me in the right direction... i will be purchasing that skimmer monday..

As i type i am currenly filling the tank with fresh water to check on my leak repairs and give my pumps a run etc... Fingers crossed no leak and i will be getting sand and sea water monday...
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Postby wawazza » Sat 14 May, 2011 3:30 pm

So, 3/4 full of fresh water at the moment, NO LEAKS :cheers:

A few eeks and creaks from the stand but she is a winner.

Some Photos:

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Seen some pumps on Guppys today, might be a take off of the tunze as they have "rocks" they can be mounted in.. Like everything im assuming you get what you pay for... should i just put my hand in my pocket and get 2 big tunze and a controller???
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Postby kj52faith » Sat 14 May, 2011 4:28 pm

Looking good :thumbsup: With the pumps, I know guppies sell quite reasonable stuff, I have purchased quite a fair bit of equipment of them and i am quite satisfied with the quality. I don't know anything about those pumps you were looking at, but if you do want to get some serious flow and more natural current, then go with either the tunzes or 2 vortech mpw60's on either side. i have two vortech's and they are excellent! Soo much flow ;)
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Postby rnscross » Sat 14 May, 2011 7:37 pm

i've read some good things about these http://www.guppysaquariumproducts.com.au/wave-making-circulating-equipment/xwave-pumps-controllers/xwave-9800-wave-pump/prod_496.html in other journals, something in the middle of the price backet. but someone else might have some personal experience?
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Postby WarbyD » Sat 14 May, 2011 8:10 pm

Looking good mate :) will have to come around for a looksie one day when ya get some stock in it :)
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Postby kj52faith » Sat 14 May, 2011 10:06 pm


THey sem like quite intresting products!!! I know xave is prety decent and then you come up to the top brands like tunze and vortech....
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Postby WarbyD » Sat 14 May, 2011 10:52 pm

Have a look at the Sicce Voyager range of pumps too... I have 3 in my tank and couldn't be happier with them :)

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Postby wawazza » Sun 15 May, 2011 11:26 am

So I'm about to head out and get some sand and water today... What's the usual depth of sand in the bottom of your tank? In there pros and cons of that? I'm thinking about 3 inch deep....

I'm what grade sand for my sump? Coarse or fine?

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Postby chromus » Sun 15 May, 2011 12:42 pm

Check the local laws regarding sand collection, you may be surprised where you can and can't collect sand from.
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Postby kj52faith » Sun 15 May, 2011 1:46 pm

wawazza wrote:So I'm about to head out and get some sand and water today... What's the usual depth of sand in the bottom of your tank? In there pros and cons of that? I'm thinking about 3 inch deep....

I'm what grade sand for my sump? Coarse or fine?

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Fine sand for the sump and then coarser towards the top..... with the display have coarse sand about 5mm and 3 inch depth should be fine...
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