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Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

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Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

Postby Chow » Sat 03 Dec, 2011 2:46 pm

Introduction:
I have been without a marine tank for about a year now since I changed my cube last year to a discus tank as I didn't have time to maintain it anymore. Well I have to say I missed having corals and finally decided to set up a nano that would be easy to take care of in an apartment with only water changes done weekly. I cycled the tank for about 6 weeks. When all the algae stopped growing wild and everything settled down I started adding zoa frags and everything seems to be doing well.

System Objectives: Low maintenance zoa only garden.

System Type: Zoa only. All from frags only.

Strike up Date: October 2011

Display System: Skimz Ibox Nano, around 9 litres when empty.

Display Lighting: Lighting specifications. BoostLED PAR30 LED lamp with gooseneck clamp. Bulk is 4 royal blue and 1 cool white.

Sump: Sectioned off back area but I am running any media at the moment but plan on adding something soon... not sure what though


Support systems:

System Water: ASW DD H2OceanPro with RO Water. Water change weekly of about 85%.

Display Water circulation: hydor return pump

Return Pump:Sump return pump.

Skimmer: None

Evaporation Top Up: Manural RO every few days


Chemical Support: none

Calcium Addition: none

Alkilinity Addition: none

Other Chemical Maintenance: none

Current Water Chemistry: Not tested,
Nitrates:
Phosphates:
Alkalinity:
Calcium:
Salinity / Specific Gravity: 1.27
Magnesuim:


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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby parrdog » Sat 03 Dec, 2011 9:55 pm

Those zoos are ace mate :).
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Sun 04 Dec, 2011 10:13 pm

parrdog wrote:Those zoos are ace mate :).


Thanks parrdog. I've had my ear to the ground for frags for a few months now as most pieces are too big for such a small tank. I might have room for a few more pieces but want these to grow out. Two are from Aquaristic, five from Coral Candy which arrived this week (including the beautiful yellow one) and I am really happy with and the rest from Australian Coral and Fish Exports in Taren Point.

I will take more pics of the other soon as there are some real nice ones that you dont really see in the above pics.
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby NiCd » Tue 06 Dec, 2011 11:49 am

wow the tank makes the frag tiles look HUGE heheh good to see you back into it though mate
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Mon 19 Dec, 2011 1:39 pm

Last weekend came out to the tank and noticed the lights hadn't turned on with the timer... little odd.

Well it ended up that the LED driver in the bulb broke.... now waiting for a new one to arrive from the US so I can replace it. It was under warranty being only 2 months old but am not too impressed. I opted to get it sent out and replace myself rather that send the whole bulb back and wait for it to be fixed and sent back.

I;m currently running the original LED light that came with the tank. Its not very strong but the zoas seem to be doing alright after a week. I really hope the driver arrives soon...
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 8:22 pm

Just thought I would give an update. Zoas are growing well, most have doubles in numbers some tripled. The current scape has been like this for about 2 months and I'm pretty happy with it.

I am fighting a macro algae problem.... it covers the tank in two weeks so I have to keep pulling it out every week to keep it under control. Started using Rowa Carbon and NPX Pellets about 3 weeks ago with no change yet... Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Marine freak » Mon 12 Mar, 2012 9:08 pm

Loving your zoas mate, just think of the macro as easy nutrient export lol.

Try and research some macro eating inverts.

Due to tank size obviously you cant fit any macro eating fish in there for long.
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Wed 14 Mar, 2012 2:04 pm

Marine freak wrote:Loving your zoas mate, just think of the macro as easy nutrient export lol.

Try and research some macro eating inverts.

Due to tank size obviously you cant fit any macro eating fish in there for long.


I cant even fit anything in there short term... I've tried keeping the inverts out as they knock things around and in such a small tank that can be a pain. Hopefully the NPX pellets kick in soon, they says it can take over a month to start working properly.

Anyone else have any ideas please?
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby NiCd » Wed 14 Mar, 2012 2:38 pm

I cant see that wierd looking skimmer that the ibox has optioned so I guessing you got the one without it? if you have no skimmer adding bio pellets it just fueling bacterial blooms that have nowhere to go, the idea is to skim these out once they are bound with nutrients. At the moment they will just be dying and going back into the system.

Id just be ripping the biopellets out, doing 2-3l water changes every day for a month until everything was under control then look at making a mame clone skimmers, a lil bag of rowaphos and then go back to your weekly changes.
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Wed 14 Mar, 2012 10:39 pm

NiCd wrote:I cant see that wierd looking skimmer that the ibox has optioned so I guessing you got the one without it? if you have no skimmer adding bio pellets it just fueling bacterial blooms that have nowhere to go, the idea is to skim these out once they are bound with nutrients. At the moment they will just be dying and going back into the system.

Id just be ripping the biopellets out, doing 2-3l water changes every day for a month until everything was under control then look at making a mame clone skimmers, a lil bag of rowaphos and then go back to your weekly changes.



Hey Nicd, I though that would be the case but with the water changes I do I thought it would keep on top of it. Yea when I bought the tank the skimmer looked a little pathetic so I opted out. I really just wanted to rely on large frequent w/c which is really easy on a small tank.

The mame clone skimmers is a good idea. I saw these puppies on reefbuilders this week too which would be alright... Gotta see if it would fit comfortably in the back.

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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby NiCd » Thu 15 Mar, 2012 6:17 am

those are the ones, if you go back about 6 months they go through the diy's, there was also someone over the the reefuge that documented a similar way i think they called it a bong skimmer or something, ill try and find a link

i think a trip to a sign maker to pick up some perpsex tube and a hunt around bunnings and you could do a pretty neat job of it

http://reefbuilders.com/2011/11/26/diy- ... p-skimmer/
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby NiCd » Thu 15 Mar, 2012 8:28 am

something like this would be fairly easy to knock up

http://[censored]/board/threads ... post-16849

and this was the "bong skimmer"

http://[censored]/board/threads ... post-16754
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Sun 18 Mar, 2012 6:47 pm

thanks nicd, I took the npx pellets out today and will try and get a little mame clone going soon to see if it helps. Will keep everyone updated.
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Sat 28 Jul, 2012 4:14 pm

Quick update. tanks going well/ Picked up some great zoa frags from Dave at Extreme Reef. Definately recommend going around to have a look at his frags.

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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby priscacara » Sun 29 Jul, 2012 2:11 pm

Looking good, nice growth rates by the looks of it too!
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby mato1983 » Mon 30 Jul, 2012 5:02 pm

Very nice :)
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Re: IBOX Nano - Zoa Only - PAR30 LED

Postby Chow » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 6:40 pm

Ok so i've been looking at the tank everyday and saying to myself, sure the frags individually are growing well but I really want to have them all start to cover the rock and blend into each other and with the current rock I have it's not really happening.... I really want a zoa mat that covers everything!

So i've have an idea to create a sloping wall that I can glue the all the frags on square tile right up against each other allowing for them to start growing into each other. I have attached a sketch of what I have in mind. The sloping surface would be out of something plastic like corflute. I would also be able to remove the entire piece from the tank allowing plenty of room to keep fragging the zoas and mixing them into eachother. Anyways here is the sketch:

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This is what I want to see....
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Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

Postby Chow » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 6:42 pm

And here is a little prototype I made up this afternoon. It is still all gluing together and the top needs to be cut down but as you can see it can fit a lot of zoa frags.....
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Postby priscacara » Sun 05 Aug, 2012 11:44 am

That would look awesome with different zoas on it.
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Postby GRK-351 » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 5:53 pm

Awesome stuff Caio!! Will look good once it is grown out, and I'll have to come and grab some frags off you when my tank is finally running.

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Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

Postby Adam007 » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 6:40 pm

Will the Zoa's not eventually fight each other off until there is just one dominant one?
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Re: Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

Postby Chow » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 9:00 pm

GRK-351 wrote:Awesome stuff Caio!! Will look good once it is grown out, and I'll have to come and grab some frags off you when my tank is finally running.

P.S. I bet everyone at UTS is proud that we are using our sketching, CAD, SketchUp skills to design marine tanks!!


Hey Matt. Thanks mate, after 5 years I have to come out with some skills.. haha, the model making helped with the skate ramp as my wife is calling it too.

How's your tank coming along? I'll have some frags for you when everything starts to grow in.
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Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

Postby Chow » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 9:03 pm

Adam007 wrote:Will the Zoa's not eventually fight each other off until there is just one dominant one?


Hopefully by keeping everything on the frag tiles and not growing directly on the corflute I should be able to just cut around the tile, pull it out and put either a new zoa or blank one back in. If i got to the point that everything was overgrown i would be quite happy though.
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Postby timothyd » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 9:44 pm

Love it! Can't wait to follow the progress if you go ahead with it.
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Postby TMK » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 10:21 pm

Awesome. Just awesome.

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Postby dmck » Thu 30 Aug, 2012 12:19 am

anything new happening? update pics?
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Postby Namn8r » Thu 30 Aug, 2012 2:32 pm

What you will eventually find is that the more common weed type zoas will start to dominate and take over the rarer nice coloured zoas....
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Postby spwa » Thu 30 Aug, 2012 6:31 pm

What about water flow at the rear and cleaning you may get dead zones??? Love the Idea though. Should look sweet.
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Postby Jam89 » Fri 19 Apr, 2013 12:41 pm

I know im digging up old threads, but is there anything happening on this? would love to see the outcome... especially after a couple of months gone by.
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Re: IBOX Nano - ZOA GARDEN IDEA - Comments please..

Postby Chow » Fri 19 Apr, 2013 12:45 pm

I've had quite a bit of growth and the mat is definitely coming along.

I will try and get some photos this weekend.
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