User talk:Saltydog

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Thanks ..

... for the contributions --Dr DBW | talk 18:32, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

Pests and Diseases

If you have any ideas on how better to organise those pages, feel free to dive in. It is not really the best at the moment. --Dr DBW | talk 15:57, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

See User_talk:Dr_DBW#Pest.2FDiseases --Dr DBW | talk 17:55, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Good Stuff

With uploading of the images --Dr DBW | talk 23:07, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Species Requiring Identification

Chris, you are best off putting the note with the image you are unsure about the species of, not the species page and adding it to the ID category.

--Dr DBW | talk 17:38, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Redirect is the way to go

Yes you can do that. Redirects are done by only having the following on the page

#REDIRECT [[Page Name]]--Dr DBW | talk 01:21, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Signature on comments

Little hint for you, when making a comment on a page like that, up the top above the subject line, the second hand last button on the right. Hit that one when you reach the end of your comment you are putting on the page. That then inserts your signature and a date stamp on it, bit like this " --Dr DBW | talk 20:14, 11 January 2009 (EST) '

Chaetodontoplus

Good pick up that it wasn't right on the taxonav, actually, just realised you created the page ;). Note, it needs to actually be a call to a template (which I had to create), like this http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php?title=Chaetodontoplus&diff=16969&oldid=16967 --Dr DBW | talk 20:22, 11 January 2009 (EST)

Line breaks

Chris, it is <br/> not </br>. The slash is required to close a sign, unpaired HTML tag. --Dr DBW | talk 19:30, 18 January 2009 (EST)

Looks like your memory only last 12 months, you are doing this again ;-) --Dr DBW | talk 22:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
LOL, prolly be happy with 12 months :) . It keeps catching me out because it works. Out of curiosity any reason behind wanting it <br/> over the wrong way.--Saltydog 23:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
It does not work with all browsers, since it is a non-standard. Using FF (v2 I think), there is no line break when you have the slash before the br. --Dr DBW | talk 23:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Reply

See User_talk:Dr_DBW#upload__image -- Dr DBW | talk 18:02, 21 January 2009 (EST)

Categories

Chris, with categories have been doing so that it is placed in the appropriate animal "grouping", such as Scleractinia will be put in Category:Coral Orders. You have on the odd page been putting things into the next level down, in previous example you might have put it as Category:Coral Families. Think it may be as on the page it lists the families.

Generally I think from not checking/changing categories from copy/paste from previous pages. Will make a better mental note.--Saltydog 22:48, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Also, do you think it is worthwhile creating categories for all the Sub Order, Infra Order and so on? Especially with crustaceans, there are just so many ;) To date, only done Classes, Orders, Families, Genera and Species, i.e. Category:Crustacean.

Need some more time with that question, as not sure on how categories integrates with the rest of the wiki. If that makes sense.--Saltydog 22:48, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Along the same lines, recently I set up Category:Taxonomy Classification, to group together the higher levels of organisms. That goes down to Class level. Not sure if it is really needed, but was bugging me that the upper levels of the tree didn't have them in a category.

As above--Saltydog 22:48, 26 January 2009 (EST)

BTW, spending a bit of time down at the water front at the moment are you? Getting some neat photos there --Dr DBW | talk 18:24, 26 January 2009 (EST)

LOL, yeah Kylie will tell you that has been the case for the last twenty years, only now I have a camera.--Saltydog 22:48, 26 January 2009 (EST)

References and Templates

Chris, just bit of a confusion about references and templates. The below code you only need to use when you set up a template for a book, journal article etc. In the below example, which you referenced on Austrocochlea porcata, this code goes into a template (see the noinclude on the same first line? Needs to be like that, other wise get returns added onto the page the template is called into), Template:Child 1977:

([[Child 1977]]): Child, J., ''Australian sea shells. 5th edition.'', Periwinkle Books: Sydney, 1977.<noinclude>
[[Category:Reference Template|Child 1977]]
[[Category:Book Reference Template|Child 1977]]
</noinclude>

If you want to have the reference just on the page, for such references that will not be used on any other page, then you would simply put the following inside the ref tags:

Child, J., ''Australian sea shells. 5th edition.'', Periwinkle Books: Sydney, 1977.

Make sense? I changed the four or five you had on that page onto templates, so if you use those books on another page, just call the template using {{Template:Child 1977}} --Dr DBW | talk 17:40, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Yep, makes sense.--Saltydog 17:50, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Blitzing it

Good stuff with all the additions :-) --Dr DBW | talk 22:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

hopefillu without to many errors :)
Nope, though your typos here are bit of a worry ;-) I added a few things, such as linking to images that you overlooked, and added some to species pages (such as the diseased images you uploaded, put them on the species pages as well) --Dr DBW | talk 02:35, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
LOL, I won't be entering any spelling or gramma contests any time soon :)

Does it have to be 6.5?

Endoh_2007 If so, will create the extra categories required. Would be nice if you can move it up or down a half a mark though ;-) --Dr DBW | talk 00:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Will change it to 7 later.

Removal of DOI link?

Just wondering why you removed the HTML link in the resource section at Centropyge flavissima? --Dr DBW | talk 00:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

None of the formats where linking to the page, so left a partial doi to fix later. Need to look into doi and their direct link code/address??? can't quite work it out yet
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.aquaculture.2004.12.009 - that works fine for me? --Dr DBW | talk 02:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I see where I went wrong. My edits had an incomplete doi address missing the ".org"

photo id

Check Fromia sea star photo id--Saltydog 13:14, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe that is correct, leg shape and markings looks wrong. --Dr DBW | talk 22:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Updated photos with correct id, need to delete existing incorrect id's

to be deleted: http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php/File:Fromia_indica_2_.jpg http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php/File:Fromia_indica_3_.jpg

Thanks Chris--Saltydog 10:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Note that we can actually move images / rename them, so could have done that rather than uploading and deleting. Just deleting them now .... --Dr DBW | talk 23:11, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Had a quick look for a move tab. Is moving image files an editor only function?--Saltydog 02:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it might be. Probably should upgrade your access rights on the wiki then, handy to have others with more control over things. Will do that a bit later. --Dr DBW | talk 03:28, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

JacksonLee Images

Chris, that images from the above person you have marked as imcomplete, are you still waiting for them to reply to you with their full name? --Dr DBW | talk 23:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

linking

so words after the | become the text displayed. think i got it now, cheers Chris.

Anatomy Images

Chris, are those a copy out of a book? If so, would be good to reference what the book was. --Dr DBW | talk 23:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

RTAW WIKI originals Dallas. Look familar :)http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php/File:Pseudanthias_hypselosoma_female_1.jpg

Chris--Saltydog 23:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Even better :-) --Dr DBW | talk 00:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Which way around should it be?

Similar species for below fish, second sentence was saying the exact opposite on each page. I think I have it around the correct way now? --Dr DBW | talk 21:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The second setence was a copy/paste, should be saying the same?
Wrong way round with the species markings. I have reworded the text :-)--Saltydog 23:06, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Reply

User_talk:Dr_DBW#editing.2Fredirecting_image_name --Dr DBW | talk 04:54, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

To do

Taxonav for Isochrysis--Saltydog 09:09, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Age for these?

File:Amphiprion ocellaris 13 .jpg --Dr DBW | talk 03:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

done --Saltydog 11:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Fish anatomy image

Just letting you know that I used your fish anatomy image, added some red colouring and highlighted some fish features and put them on various pages, ones done so far, see http://www.masa.asn.au/masawiki/index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/File:General_Fish_Anatomy_1_.jpg --Dr DBW | talk 00:58, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. Are there any guidelines to using other peoples work (within reefpedia). That is, copy/paste sections where they are relevant on other pages????? Eg - fish species subheadings among genus with similar characteristics.--Saltydog 22:42, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Chris, you can use and copy/paste as you see fit. As soon as something is added to the wiki, then you are free to copy / paste it around as needed. If there is something that is consistent between various species etc, then it may be that using a template might be a better way to do it. We have had a play with that, but hasn't really been used, will make it much easier to add the material, and edit it in the future if needed, since you will only have to go to a single page to make the edits. --Dr DBW | talk 23:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Care Tables

Chris, bit of serious work you have been putting into that coral care tables :-)

Might I suggest before you get into it too far that we set up some templates for the different gradings of the various parameters you have set up. Means that much easier to make any adjustments in the future, instead of having a heap of terms in each species, which may or may not be a "standard" if others make an adjustment. Using the template would also mean could have a link within it, leading to the detailed explanation of what they actually mean. Easier you make it now, making it easier to update etc, the easier it will be in the long run.

Think probably already have the basis of the templates there now, the explanations at the top, are they the final classifications for each of the parameters? If there is a reference from where these are coming from too, would be a good idea to add those in. When I get a chance I will see about setting some up and see how they work with a few examples.

Will probably at some point want to split the page up, as it gets longer. Long pages don't work too well.

The splitting of the corals into LPS/SPS, not sure that we should be encouraging that, as it is an artificial construct that doesn't actually tell you anything about the coral other than roughly what it's polyp size is. That is why it is only mentioned in passing, rather than actually using on detail pages etc for the various species. I think it is better to show people to the correct way to do things / label them, rather than what is the common way to do so. With dynamic ordering available in the tables too, this is not actually that important.

--Dr DBW | talk 02:56, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sort of following with the template idea, you may need to do an example though.
Not sure on the classifications yet. Think they maybe final, but just sort of put something there so could sit back and see. No reference. Had a look at a lot various sites on grading systems, not just aquariums, so no specific origin, just bits and pieces and my own thoughts.
SPS/LPS :) Personally I don't have any preference. It's one of those things. The table is probably aimed at those with no knowledge in aquariums and in that regard I think it’s useful, even if it is corrupting their mind a little. But appreciated where you’re coming from and happy to go with that (no sps)
At the moment I'm just hoping to get enough info (even is some is a little skewed, easily fixed later) to make it usable and get people looking at it. I really like the table idea and it also makes a good stepping stone into the wiki format for people who have no idea. I can image a lot of people getting scared off after looking at the "coral" main page. Page hits suggests the table idea is working, re: hitchhickers page. I think if this one gets going would be nice to do similar ones for inverts, fish and diseases.--Saltydog 11:27, 6 December 2011 (UTC)